AC accessories?

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Aptera Community Aptera Discussions AC accessories?

  • AC accessories?

     Mark Salyzyn updated 2 weeks, 1 day ago 8 Members · 11 Posts
  • Mark Salyzyn

    July 23, 2022 at 7:30 pm

    I was discussing with my wife about camping with the Aptera. I used to use a naphthalene stove in the past. Seems _wrong_ to do in an Aptera. Carbon fuels bad M’kay?

    The Battery is 350vdc. If the midpoint and ends are brought out to a converter, it could produce single phase split 240vac 50/60Hz directly suitable for a nice powerful one or two burner induction cooktop. The converters they use for the motors produce 208vac 3 phase power directly, similar componentry, different wiring. Of course, such an option for 240vac split would give us a pair of accessory plug for 120vac for normal stuff. Refrigerators, LED lights, Amateur Radio power supplies …

    If the converter is of the same design as the motor drive, except not variable frequency, and wired for single phase they could power a house 240vac split at 200Amps. Having such a beefy converter will have its own uses (like … powering a house!)

    The accessory converter need only be for 15A or 20A service, so not nearly as beefy. There are aftermarket units here and there designed for the large number of 350vdc cars, Ford has such in the electric F-150 standard built-in. It would be better if such an option was available from Aptera themselves though for great fit and finish.

    So, what do you think?

  • Dennis Swaney

    July 23, 2022 at 8:01 pm
  • Steve Wanamaker

    July 23, 2022 at 8:05 pm

    I think a 15A 120v outlet is a minimum requirement. This would allow me to run a hot plate. Also one or more 12v to run a small plug-in cooler, and some USBC to charge phones.

    • John Voules

      July 23, 2022 at 8:12 pm

      Maybe a good idea for APTERA to offer with tent package. Factory order could include not just the tent but extra outlets or other camping connections.

      • Mark Salyzyn

        July 24, 2022 at 6:47 am

        Tent package could also have a comfy optional cut and sewn to fit mattress for the younger people on the Aptera reservation list (read: apparently this means 55 to 70 year olds) 😉

  • Gordon Niessen

    July 23, 2022 at 8:09 pm

    You can have a nice induction cooktop or microwave on a simple 120v outlet that Aptera are saying will be included. No need to go crazy with split phase or even 3 phase. Though being able to tap into the full DC power for V2G support would be very nice.

  • John Malcom

    July 23, 2022 at 8:38 pm

    The Aptera is engineered to be the most efficient vehicle transportation in the world. It was not designed to be a power station or a substitute for a 150 Lightning. The Aptera will have V2L 110 but not powerful enough to support using a hot plate or other high current device. There will be no 220v output.

    • Gordon Niessen

      July 24, 2022 at 6:31 am

      I agree that these are just secondary features. Note: that I would bet that when they make one for Europe it will have 220v and no 110v.

  • James Gatan

    July 23, 2022 at 10:22 pm

    @ Mark Salyzyn, tapping power from this portable EV “power bank” could possibly be the solution. Being so used to having a back up battery (for my iPhone) within easy reach, this would be the power bank for my Aptera (very useful for overnight charging in apt garage). I just signed up, for pre ordering notification, to commence this year.

    A ZipCharge Go

  • Paul Schultz

    July 24, 2022 at 4:47 am

    … or, camp at state or national park campgrounds that have sites with a power post. Bring an extension cord and you are all set. And, most sites have enough capacity at the power post (up to 120V, 50A service) to add a portable L2 AC charger. No metered payment either. The cost is included in the campsite fee. Pay for the site, set up the Aptera tent, put a portable electric cooktop on the picnic table and enjoy the beautiful surroundings!

    • Mark Salyzyn

      July 24, 2022 at 5:54 am

      That was my first idea, but then I started thinking off grid, rest stops etc.

      It was good to know that this kind of thing was discussed, and was on the first spreadsheet of features. Let us hope that despite disappearing off the modern lists, it is still on their mind.

      Of course, if it is not, I guarantee you that I just found a retirement job making accessories for the Aptera 😉

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