Aptera Passenger and Cargo Limits

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  • Aptera Passenger and Cargo Limits

     Guy SKEER updated 6 months, 3 weeks ago 15 Members · 23 Posts
  • DON RASKY

    Member
    November 22, 2021 at 6:13 pm

    I understand the Aptera to have a maximum safe load of 500 lbs. I’m 270 and built something like a wrestler/weight lifter. With my primary passenger at 134 lbs, that leaves me slightly less than 100 lbs for cargo if I have my primary passenger with me. What happens with the Aptera if the vehicle is loaded 50 to 100 lbs above it’s rated capacity? My mother’s scooter weighs in at roughly 80 to 100 lbs.

  • Peter Jorgensen

    Member
    November 23, 2021 at 7:30 am

    It’s like the first gen Honda Insight which had a tiny payload capacity too. I wouldn’t worry about it too much. It’ll feel heavy but that’s probably about it. If you take it over some massive bumps you might hit the suspension stops. If you do this all the time I would see if there’s a battery option that weighs less but has the same suspension – since there’s a 750 lb difference between the smallest battery and the largest for Aptera.

  • Joshua Rosen

    Member
    November 23, 2021 at 8:18 am

    Wait until they release the real numbers before you start to worry. The suspension system has just been redesigned. They are still planning on having a 100KWh(usable) battery option, that has to be 600-800lbs heavier than the 40KWh(usable) battery, the suspension has to be able to handle that.

    I can’t believe that they would build a car that was for ballerinas only, it has to be able to handle two decent sized men and luggage.

    • DON RASKY

      Member
      November 23, 2021 at 11:10 am

      Much obliged. I figured it would have a bit of overcapacity built into it. Unless I’m piloting the Aptera solo I do not plan to load it to capacity or to tail load it. With my favorite 92 year young mother staying with me now, I’m thinking that the all wheel drive, 400 mile, with the off road suspension might be my best set of options as most of our weekend excursions are under 250 miles and no practical commute for me is beyond 240 – 250 round trip. If I have enough capacity for my passenger, her small electric scooter, and a Costco, Sam’s Club grocery run, I will be one very happy fellow. Heck, this might even be a good incentive for me to return to my more youthful trim to carry more cargo in the Aptera and less on me. ;->> Again gentlemen, many many thanks for the insight and counsel. I’m really liking the Aptera community already.

      • John Malcom

        Member
        November 23, 2021 at 11:48 am

        Good for you! I am sure your mother likes road trips with her son. Unusual to see men in the U.S. taking care of elderly parents. Hats off to you for that. My mother lived to 98 and enjoyed road trips until her last day on earth.

        Also some good common sense analysis for configuring your Aptera.

        I will also take your advice for lowering the load on my Aptera from me. Especially important to keep in mind around the holiday season when I tend to overeat.

        • DON RASKY

          Member
          November 23, 2021 at 12:00 pm

          Thanks John. My mother spent the majority of her life taking care of everyone around her at work and at home and even within the extended family. When my father passed, she was the only earthen treasure of any real value in the family. I figure that she put in 21 years with me, I owe her at least as much in return. And yep, she loves road trips and I think the Aptera might even be easier for her to get in and out of given she currently has to use the steps on the side of my truck to get in and out of the cab.

  • Curtis Cibinel

    Member
    November 24, 2021 at 11:09 am

    Hypothetically if you are heavier (ie 300lb) and will constantly be at or around the overall vehicle weight limit (500lb for cargo/passengers) it should be possible to swap in the heavier suspension from the next weight/battery tier up (ie suspension springs for a 60 kwh battery in a 40 kwh Aptera). The battery is likely about 10lb per kwh so the math is relatively simple.

    You would still lose range due to mass but by stiffening the suspension it would avoid bottoming to quickly. Obviously its best to stay under the 500lb limit but functionally they probably tune and test with the idea of a single 150-180 lb driver. Liability in accidents with an overloaded vehicle could also be a concern.

    • Ken Potter

      Member
      December 11, 2021 at 10:28 pm

      Here is a related question: My order includes the 40kWh battery pack. My wife and I combined are under 280lb. Would a larger battery pack make a slight improvement in ride quality? Presumably, the factory might make suspension adjustments for the change in weight. (600 extra lb, for example, with the 100kWh pack) Are we then back to square one?

  • kerbe2705

    Member
    December 13, 2021 at 10:27 am

    It was stated during a webinar many moons ago that they Aptera was designed to carry two 250 lb adults and 500 lbs of cargo. So work backwards from 1000 lbs, not from 500 lbs…

    • Benjamin Vanderford

      Member
      December 15, 2021 at 5:04 pm

      I wonder if it changed? From the current FAQ:

      What is the max payload for the cargo area?
      Aptera is designed to carry a 500 lbs payload of passengers and cargo, or a max of 300lbs in the rear cargo (if you only have the driver).

      • kerbe2705

        Member
        December 15, 2021 at 5:45 pm

        It must have done!

  • Francis Giroux

    Member
    December 13, 2021 at 4:25 pm

    I once had eight people in the front (only) seats of my Porsche 914. I many times drove with three comfortably in the 914. The seats were about as far apart as those in the Aptera, but in the Porsche there was no tall armrest in the middle. I’m sure that armrest/cup holder/compartment can come out (with a saws-all if needed) and be replaced with a nice cushion like the Porsche 914 had. Yeah the passenger would have to share the foot space with the other passenger and couldn’t be the tallest one in the car (sitting on the hump that’s left after removing the arm rest), but I’m sure a kid would be just fine if you install a third seat belt.

    I’m retired but I still sometimes transport my daughter and friend in my two seat 2000 Honda Insight. And there is an armrest in that car. It’s not quite legal without a separate seat belt, but you have to catch me to ticket me.

    • Loren Gilbert

      Member
      December 15, 2021 at 5:35 pm

      That center console will have batteries underneath it, so removal will not be possible.

  • Francis Giroux

    Member
    December 15, 2021 at 6:06 pm

    I do the impossible. When you can fit 8 people in the front seat of a Porsche 914, I’ll be more likely to believe you when you say that my third seat plan, is impossible. The batteries will not fill the interior of the center consul arm rest, so there is space there to remove the consul and install the cushion, even if it a few inches higher than the two front seats. Never challenge me to do the impossible. I built my first electric car in 1981 (135 mpg equivalent) and licensed it in New York State. I built two 3-wheeled cars and one 2-wheeled car (fully enclosed) from motor scooters and got 100 miles per gallon. I also sold worldwide a gas mileage enhancement system that improved gas mileage around 20% with equipment alone and 50% or more when using my driving tips in the owner’s manual. I also installed this system on a Saturn SL1 and competed in the Tour de Sol mileage competition and achieves 102 miles per gallon. Like Trump said in one of his inspirational speeches, “when someone tells you that what you are attempting is impossible, thing of it as motivation (paraphrased).” The impossible is only impossible until you challenge me to do it.

    • Paul Kirchner

      Member
      December 15, 2021 at 7:52 pm

      No matter how uninspirational the gibberish Trump says, right now it is impossible since there is not an Aptera you can take apart.

      • Wayne Forkum Forkum

        Member
        December 15, 2021 at 10:44 pm

        Apparently he didn’t inspire your small mind!

        • Francis Giroux

          Member
          December 16, 2021 at 7:02 am

          Let’s not get into an insult contest. They only make you emotionally smaller. Edify, don’t objurgate, disparage, and deride.

      • Francis Giroux

        Member
        December 16, 2021 at 7:07 am

        Noir, Sol, Luna, that’s three. There are likely at least a dozen original version Apterae still in existence as well. Careful how you use that word, impossible. I told you, “I do the impossible.”

    • Riley ________________________________

      Member
      December 16, 2021 at 2:18 am

      Going to have to see how many people You can fit in the aptera, I bet You can do more than 8 if you include the cargo area.

      • Francis Giroux

        Member
        December 16, 2021 at 7:22 am

        Just in the back, I’ll bet you the price of an Aptera, that I could fit at least 25 people. I didn’t say I had eight adults in the front (only) seat of my Porsche 914. I said people. Twenty five kids or infants could easily fit in the back of an Aptera and not even exceed that 500 pound load limit. The Aptera front seat is bigger than the 914. Considering that in the 914 I had one teen to my left and one in front of me as I sat in the driver’s seat (reached around both sides of him to steer and shift), two on the cushion between the seats and three in the passenger seat like I did in the drivers seat, I could do the same in the Aptera without having to resort to grade schoolers. However no heads could be sticking out the windows like in the Porsche. Impossible?

        • Oz (It’s Oz, just Oz)

          Member
          December 16, 2021 at 8:46 am

          Fran, I’ll bet you’ve got an old phone booth in your backyard somewhere…

  • Francis Giroux

    Member
    December 16, 2021 at 10:13 am

    Let’s just say, “I don’t use a cell phone.” But back in 1995 I had one of the first mobile phones in my truck, plugged into the cigarette lighter port and took up most of the space one the front seat between me and the passenger. Now I have abandoned mobile phones.

    • Guy SKEER

      Member
      December 16, 2021 at 2:09 pm

      For a WOMAN, a CellPhone is Actually a Sceptre – It Makes Her QUEEN of ALLLLL She Surveys.

      But, For a MAN, a Cellphone is but LEASH! I Don’t Need No Steeenkin’Leash!

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