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Aptera related News and Media (2)Posted by thomas-edmonds on January 1, 2023 at 4:03 pm
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Why aren’t we getting more media coverage? I saw an article in Yahoo yesterday about the 10 coolest new cars to be available in 2023, and Aptera was not listed!William_J replied 1 week ago 22 Members · 31 Replies
Aptera related News and Media (2)William_J updated 1 week ago 22 Members · 31 Replies
harry-parkerModeratorJanuary 1, 2023 at 4:12 pm
Good question! I’ve seen other “best new electric car” list articles that included autos, trucks, SUVs, even RV’s but no 2 or 3 wheelers. Why? Most people believe something with less than 4 wheels isn’t a car. Unfortunately, many don’t consider it a motorcycle either, although legally it is, in the USA at least.
My conclusion: You won’t find Aptera in any list of vehicle category articles because it stands alone in a category all by itself.
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BigSkyMemberJanuary 1, 2023 at 5:10 pm
2 very good reasons; first it is not a car by journalistic standards. Second, it is not clear at all that it will launch in 2023 and it likely will not unless there is a surpise funding announcement very, VERY soon.
george-hughesMemberJanuary 1, 2023 at 11:35 pm
First, yahoo is not the NYTimes. Second you’ll notice a great deal of additional advertising time being bought on networks and on the net.
Don’t think the media doesn’t attempt to work off a narrative that was derived from and for the benefit of the medium’s owners.
Speaking of the NYTimes, if you do a search there for Aptera today, you’ll see a lot of press coverage dating back to the days when the Detroit ‘guys’ were running the show … but nary a bleep since the re-founding.
But the big story tonight was on 60 Minutes which was a rehash of the fact that we’re going through a mass extinction because of climate change; a fact that a rapid move to sustainability is the only possible, if unlikely, solution.
It is unlikely mostly because, taken as a whole, we are an irrational lot.
But it does give Aptera’s plan for a timeless, multigenerational transportation device that is fun and sustainable.
david-marlowMemberJanuary 2, 2023 at 9:22 am
Waiting for the January Aptera announcement. If it turns out to be as siginificent as I hope, I think the media will take note of it.
PhilMemberJanuary 2, 2023 at 11:21 pm
Yet another example of Aptera off the radar of some media, you would think Wired magazine would know better….https://www.wired.com/story/the-17-best-evs-coming-in-2023/?redirectURL=%2Fstory%2Fthe-17-best-evs-coming-in-2023%2F%3Fsource%3DEDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ&source=EDT_WIR_NEWSLETTER_0_DAILY_ZZ
thetravellerMemberJanuary 8, 2023 at 8:24 am
TomMemberJanuary 23, 2023 at 4:53 pm
The article does state that “Aptera Launch Edition vehicles will come with a Tesla-standard charging port but, curiously, no ability to plug into DC fast-charging stations.” but we now know (as of about an hour ago) that DC fast-charging is back! Yay!
jeff-siddonsMemberJanuary 23, 2023 at 5:37 pm
What do you think?
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TomMemberJanuary 23, 2023 at 5:55 pm
Rather scathing, but I guess everyone has the right to their own opinion. I would tend to trust the likes of Sandy Munro, the leadership at C.P.C. and Elaphe and my own judgement before putting much credence in someone who I know nothing about. Maybe we now know the identity of Aussie Ideas Man?
BrassaxeMemberJanuary 23, 2023 at 6:21 pm
I/We just went through and contacted all the news sites and informed them the Aptera team honorably and swiftly responded to the community and will have DC fast charging on the Launch Edition. The articles about the Launch Edition with old info, that we have contacted the authors for, are below. If anyone has any more please help the cause.
PhilMemberJanuary 23, 2023 at 11:49 pm
After some research of the company the Cleantechnica author works for, Agora Energy Technologies, that company is developing a battery that converts CO2 emissions into energy for CO2 Redox Flow Batteries. It sounds like his company needs CO2 emissions from ICE vehicles, in order to make this work. The old cliche, follow the money applies here, here’s a link to this company’s about page….https://agoraenergy.ca/about/
BrassaxeMemberJanuary 24, 2023 at 4:19 am
So far even though it was late at night I have gotten a decent amount of emails saying they will make corrections. InsideEV’s, EVsandbeyond, KWKT, etc and some that will post entirely new stories, Drivetesla.
BrassaxeMemberJanuary 24, 2023 at 5:29 am
Just got an email from Scooter Doll at Electrek. Very positive article.
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gabriel-kemenyModeratorJanuary 26, 2023 at 6:14 am
Chirs Anthony answers some questions in this video:
Aptera CEO Chris Anthony Talks Launch Edition with DC Fast Charging – YouTube
gabriel-kemenyModeratorFebruary 3, 2023 at 4:27 am
“When Aptera disclosed that it would try to raise more than $20 million by gamifying the process, it also pointed out its investment page. Apart from the leaderboard that reveals daily information on how many people have invested more than $10,000 in the company (106) and how much money they have already put in the company ($1.32 million), the page also brings an interesting graphic. It discloses how many solar trikes Aptera thinks it can sell per year.
Considering the numbers the graphic presents, I suspect it is an estimate for the American market, but there is nothing there confirming this. I’ll work with them as if that were the case because this is the scenario in which they make more sense.
According to Aptera, it can sell 600,000 solar trikes per year because it appeals to motorcycle and three-wheeler buyers (120,000 units per year), two-passenger car drivers (140,000), efficient commuters (140,000), energy-saving advocates (80,000), and environmental advocates (120,000). The company expected to deliver 10,000 units of the trike in 2023, when it created the page. It currently says it would be happy if the first units were produced in 2024, but this is not what this story wants to discuss. I am more interested in the estimates Aptera did.
Bikerestart states that motorcycle sales in the U.S. were 441,000 in 2021 and probably around 430,000 in 2022. Although they are declining, Americans bought an average of 455,000 motorcycles annually over the last ten years. I did not find any reliable information source on three-wheelers, but the number is certainly lower than that for motorcycles. Aptera believes an expressive fraction of people shopping for these vehicles could choose its solar trike instead. If we were to consider only motorcycles, that would be 26.4% or more than a quarter of motorcycle customers per year.
Aptera then talks about two-passenger car drivers. The only vehicles that fit this description that I can think of are smart fortwo units (which are no longer for sale in the U.S.), pickup trucks, roadsters such as the Mazda X-5, and coupes such as the Chevrolet Corvette or the Audi R8. It is such a broad universe that anything with two seats could fit, so I wonder how Aptera figured out 140,000 of these buyers could prefer its solar trike.The calculation is even more mysterious when it involves efficient commuters, energy-saving advocates, and environmental advocates. Where did the company obtain the data showing how many of these folks live in the U.S.? How did it calculate the percentage of these people who would decide to buy an Aptera, and how did it validate these numbers? At this point, it seems clear that this is more wishful thinking than a proper estimate.The truth is that the Aptera is an entirely new product breaking ground for a market segment that people have never heard about: solar trikes. To be sure about how many of these vehicles it can sell per year, it is probably more important to learn how much these trikes will cost. Efficient commuters will not spend $50,000 on a two-seater. On the other hand, plenty of people would buy one if it cost $10,000 – even gas-guzzler fans. Everyone is after a real bargain.
Supposing it will be in between these two prices ($30,000), how many people would choose an Aptera instead of a Toyota RAV4 (which starts at $27,975) or a 2023 Prius ($27,450)? None of these vehicles charge from the sun or are as energy-efficient as the Aptera, but they carry five people. This may be crucial for anyone spending that kind of money, unless you are really into Aptera’s proposition – and have the cash necessary to join the queue.
Being a commercial success has more to do with the price tag than with what the company promises to do for the environment or the future of the planet. Without knowing how much the startup plans to charge for each of its trike’s derivatives, we are pretty much in the dark, and any estimate on demand is tough to believe.
Curiously, when I started writing this article, 96 people joined Aptera’s crowdfunding game, raising $1.2 million in the process. When I finished it one day later, the number had increased to 106 people, and the raised sum was $1.32 million. These ten more people put $120,000 more into the company. Surprisingly, the leader is now R.P., who put only $10,500 into the game, but had already invested $1,000,640.
At this pace, Aptera is adding 17.7 people per day to its campaign. In 58 days, it will reach 1,024.6 people to buy the 2,000 Launch Edition vehicles it plans to deliver. That’s only half of the planned production. This may be the best indication of demand the company may be able to provide if it does not manage to speed up the process.”
Aptera Believes It Can Sell 600,000 Solar Trikes Per Year, But Does the Math Add Up? – autoevolution
GreekMemberFebruary 3, 2023 at 6:01 am
Thank you for the link. For myself aside for all of APTERA’s virtues, it is so different and so futuristic that it also appeals to the emotional side of my brain. The practical side at the moment is making concessions to please my emotional side. The APTERA is such a thing of beauty that I will make it work for my transportation needs regardless…for me it’s more of a want car than an actual need. Car buying is a very emotional process for many. How many young men buy pick up trucks not really needing them, it’s all image. Same with sports cars that young and old buy. APTERA’s potential of its actual beauty is hard to put in math. APTERA’s emotional appeal is yet to be recognized by the general public. Let’s hope it gets that chance.
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glenn-zajicMemberFebruary 3, 2023 at 12:02 pm
Aptera is such a unique vehicle, I don’t see how anybody could make a projection. How many people would prefer three wheels over four – almost nobody. How many people would prefer to never have to refuel – almost everybody. I think the sweet spot is somewhere in between.
gabriel-kemenyModeratorFebruary 4, 2023 at 6:07 pm
“ZURICH, SWITZERLAND, January 31, 2023 /EINPresswire.com/ — The 14th FTE Summit opens on 3 Feb 2023 with 120 Digital Industrialists. Sri Ayyeppen, President, Argano, will be the Opening Keynote.
Entrepreneurs keynoting include:
– Claudia Ruiz-Graham – Imaged Reality – Stratbox, the Metaverse & Collaborative Data Integration in 3D Space, for Energy, Mining and Engineering
– Ndiarka Mbodji – Kowry Energy – Industralising Energy in Sub Saharan Africa
– Jason Cozens – GlintPay – Gold as Money
– Craig Krull – Terathium – Lithium Mining
– Martin Reynolds – Zero Carbon Ventures
– Subhra Das – Aladdin. Life – The Middle East’s Largest Marketplace for Mobile and Broadband Services
– Denis Raskopoljac… XPay – Loyalty & Payment for Brands
– Steve Fambro – Aptera – Bringing Solar-powered Mobility to the World
– Paolo Guidelli, Chairman, Galvani Power
‘Having been a Global Leader for Tomorrow at the WEF / Davos , I value the WEF community for discussion,’ said Dr Meyer. ‘The world is frankly in chaos. Major super powers are, as the Swiss say, kaput. The West is bust. Putting the entrepreneur at the heart of society is the only solution. Our desire is to get to work designing and executing the important work of creating a society where all people flourish. We must all become Sovereign Individuals,’ said Dr Meyer.
‘We welcome the Gamma solar-powered mobility vehicle, developed by Aptera.us, as the Guest of Honour at our Jazz & Gin & Tonic Event on the 4th of Feb. More than 35,000 vehicles have been pre-ordered, and Aptera has raised more than $60 million from crowd-funding, creating a powerful consumer following,’ said Dr. Meyer. ‘BCN Gin, https://bcngin.com, have graciously hosted our Jazz & Gin Evening; we welcome Stefan Lismond, its creator to the FTE Business Family.’
The Follow The Entrepreneur (FTE) Investor Summit commences on the 3rd of February 2023 with Presentations every day for 4 days at the Maloja Palace”
joe-mclaughlinMemberMarch 3, 2023 at 2:44 pm
I’ve watched the video on the Aptera Owners’ Club Youtube channel of the presentation in St. Moritz (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDhamBElEbs&t=589s ) .
Wondering if there is an ‘official’ version of that, with any additional Q and A ?
Also, where can we see or get a copy of the slide deck presented?
gabriel-kemenyModeratorMarch 17, 2023 at 7:52 am
Full video of the event
john-youngMemberMarch 17, 2023 at 7:31 am
Too bad Gamma wasn’t available. Be nice to show it off to his followers. He also didn’t mention the accelerator program. It was cool to get some insight from a ‘civilian’ driver though.
ROMADMemberMarch 17, 2023 at 8:00 am
When a couple of Deltas get built, Aptera needs to have him do a follow-up video.
GreekMemberMarch 17, 2023 at 9:23 am
@ROMAD. OH YA…thank you for that.
stewart-ruthMemberMarch 17, 2023 at 9:29 am
Are the solar cells functional?
gabriel-kemenyModeratorMarch 17, 2023 at 9:48 am
Not on that Alpha in the video.
Mike-MarsMemberMarch 17, 2023 at 11:29 am
I think Gamma was the first prototype which had functional solar panels.
Although note that they have ‘mules’ (immobile test frames) which had solar panels installed and working prior to that point.
curtis-cibinelMemberMarch 17, 2023 at 12:15 pm
At the end he brings up the rather comical idea of having a truck backed version with no rear hatch. While I definitely don’t think a dedicated vehicle is justified it would be really cool if the Aptera could operate with the hatch removed. This would allow the vehicle to be temporarily modified and used to move large chairs, couches, dressers etc with an obvious sacrifice to efficiency. Obviously anything over 200-300lb would be a really bad idea due to the stability of the tadpole for the cargo area but most things are well under that. Efficiency is largely irrelevant as this would generally be used for around town travel.
Reminder: Due to solar and ability to be charged effectively with 120v Aptera is well suited to use by renters. Renters have a tendency to move far more often.
noah-blumenthalMemberMarch 17, 2023 at 1:09 pm
Thank you john for posting this. Hearing the joy out of him makes me that much happier to be an investor and more excited to get my Aptera ASAP.
William_JMemberMarch 17, 2023 at 1:57 pm
Getting on JerryRigEverything is quite the win for Aptera. I’m sure the Aptera team knows it as he got to drive both Alpha and Beta prototypes on a test track, so some pretty exclusive access. A great way to get exposure with minimal effort and cost. The ‘JerryRigEverything’ YT channel has 7.63M subscribers, or more than 2x that of the ‘Jay Leno’s Garage’ channel that spurred a lot of Aptera interest some time ago. For reference, the ‘Aptera Owner’s Club’ channel has 12.4k subscribers. The leaderboard totals and the pre-orders may just see a bump up in the coming days and weeks.