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     Riley … updated 11 months ago 18 Members · 25 Posts
  • John Wiley

    August 22, 2021 at 11:42 am

    When I imagine parallel parking an Aptera I think about how vulnerable the car is on the front and rear. I would be paranoid about damage that could be caused by the cars parked behind and in front when they go to leave their spaces. Yes, bumpers are ugly. Yes, bumpers would reduce aerodynamics and efficiency. Yes, bumpers would add weight. But the car will eventually be bumped into, causing at least, no damage, and at worst, some damage. Does anyone have a suggestion on how this could be addressed, if it hasn’t already been discussed?

  • Matthew Parker

    August 22, 2021 at 12:27 pm

    I believe that the composite body of the Aptera will be tough enough to withstand any bumps a vehicle might experience in a parking situation without damage.

  • Fanfare 100

    August 22, 2021 at 12:37 pm

    Traffic cones for when parking at the mall or at a garage??

    • John Wiley

      August 22, 2021 at 12:48 pm

      Neither shopping malls nor garages require parallel parking.

  • George Hughes

    August 22, 2021 at 2:31 pm

    Rubber baby buggy bumpers.

    I do think the weight and composite construction will protect the Aptera in most low-speed impacts. I don’t think we want to make too much of its light weight in the parking facet as people may wonder if they can just power the Aptera out of the city parking with a ‘push’ to make room for their 4-ton “Lightening.”

    I think the real reality is the bumperless look, which is attractive as hell, is one of the reasons to stay with a three-wheeled ‘autocycle’ with its different regulations.

    My personal recommendation is that Aptera forego a four-wheeled version until the bumper regs are re-written as that hit alone would likely increase the coefficient of drag to .20 from the get-go.

  • Len Nowak

    August 22, 2021 at 5:02 pm

    I have seen the Sol and Noir and the ahve been shown in maybe several dozen videos by now for you to search and see “ that helps “

    I attached a picture of the Sol next to a man that I would say was about 5’6” tall so you can see the tail of the Aptera is not that low.

    The front is like a sports car. I had a Honda Civic Si, which I would guess was just as low and the bumper. It was never hit in the eleven years I owned it, that I could tell from the bumper or license plate… and my bumper had a clear film wrap,so ….it would show an abrasion. Maybe I was lucky

    Photo attached at eleven years old.

    Nowadays I look for easy exercise ( a walk ) and would park my Aptera away from the others and walk to my destination where possible.

    I hope this helps somewhat ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • John Wiley

      August 22, 2021 at 6:03 pm

      I agree that the Aptera looks as cool as hell without bumpers. I just want to feel comfortable parallel parking this little beauty between 2 other cars. I too would choose to park away from others in a large lot that is not full; however, once a week I drive to a small coastal town in SC to teach and all that is available there in the way of parking is curbside parallel metered parking. Guess I could park it in a grocery store lot a mile away and take an Uber.


    August 22, 2021 at 6:39 pm

    I would like to know what will happen the to the aptera if and when someone driving a big 4×4 dodge ram truck with one of those trailer hitch balls that is 4 ballstaht sticks out 1.5 ft behind thier rig decides to back into the Aptera?

    • OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)

      August 22, 2021 at 6:42 pm

      Auto protect will activate and engage the forward or rear phasers as needed.

    • John Wiley

      August 22, 2021 at 6:54 pm

      Yep. And I live in an area that is full of those trucks (and the F-150). When I get my Aptera maybe I’ll just move to a mountain top in Mexico to keep it safe. Or the South of France. I was just there for 2 weeks. Did not see a single pickup. No kidding. Did see a Mini Cooper se all electric hardtop, though. 114 mile range. You get to stop every 2 hours on a road trip to charge up. (Oops – I think I got off message. Sorry.)

  • John Malcom

    August 22, 2021 at 6:45 pm

    I agree with George. I believe the materials will withstand a parallel parking bump. Aptera has said this as well. The safety crash testing (To automobile standards) should shed some light on this issue. In the end only reports from owners with real world experience will resolved the discussion

    • John Wiley

      August 22, 2021 at 6:59 pm

      Yes, John, you’re probably right. I’m sure I’m being overly concerned. Time for me to give it a rest. Thanks.

  • kerbe2705

    August 22, 2021 at 10:25 pm

    For all we know, “Safety Pilot” may include an auto-park function so there’d be no need to worry about parallel parking.

    • John Wiley

      August 23, 2021 at 6:31 am

      And what a fun feature that would be. However, I’m not concerned about my ability to parallel park – I’ve been doing it comfortably and successfully for almost 60 years. It’s the other drivers in front and in back – when they go to leave their parking spots while I’m still parked. But John Malcom has convinced me to not worry about that. We’re assuming the the protection on the front is as good as current applications on legacy autos, and the rear of the car is basically just an elevated area with tail lights, etc. Until we can see, sit in, drive and tire-kick a production car, questions like this will just keep popping up.

    • Curtis Cibinel

      November 2, 2021 at 11:28 am

      I suspect safety pilot wont do much more than stated but a simple camera or proximity sensor for the wheel pods could help parallel parking. They did discuss this as a good idea in one of the Q&A videos so it might even be in the first release.

  • my_discord_number_is_0328 bloody stupid

    August 23, 2021 at 7:09 pm

    speaking of this, many places mandate license plate at front of car too, for such the front end could be cheap transparent plastic (thats can resist highspeed wind pressing against it, extreme heat including under very unfiltered sunlight) to allow license plate sitting in that space inside the front end. a little tint color can be done at end of nose in case it sticks out in traffic, people will be seeing license plate from above so plate is tilted as such. the same treat meant as normal car headlight is needed to prevent water condensing. plastic doesnt have to be rubber like, but it can have rubber in between it and main chassis, and rubbers are used to help cancel out vertical shocks front bumpy road so placement can be optimized to dual purpose. color tint may help with solar heat minimization. ive seen white and more mirror like tint rather than black tint, may improve tint performance plus give a rather unique transparent look especially the more mirror like tint b/c it adds visualization of movement when car or things in around it move, also to be considered for windshield,windows etc. czinger

    this may also allow showing some of the insides which would be unique appearance. where plate at front is not necessary, one could put some other art in there, lit up or whatever.

    • Kenneth Hurst

      November 2, 2021 at 10:11 am

      In California, the Aptera is registered as a motorcycle and hence only has one rear license plate.

      If it were classified as a car, California is one of the states that requires 2 license plates for cars – but it is not!

  • Dean McManis McManis

    November 2, 2021 at 2:16 pm

    I would really worry if my car’s bumpers were ever “used”. New cars do have support bars in the front and rear of all vehicles, but the damage of any impact with modern vehicles is going to be costly. I have older cars that still have bumpers, but I’ve never used them in decades of ownership. Now parking lot door dings are far more common, but it seems that the composite body would be less prone to damage than steel panels on a traditional car. I can understand your concern, especially if the car is left unattended on a public street, but I think that the Aptera will do as good as most cars in this regard.

  • kerbe2705

    November 2, 2021 at 3:07 pm

    Given the range of proximity sensors and cameras what will be part of every Aptera, you’d pretty much need to make a special effort to damage the vehicle during parking maneuvers…

    • Riley …

      November 4, 2021 at 2:30 am

      The sol alpha prototype already got curb rash that is very visible due to the black composite under the vinyl. I can’t imagine they were letting just anyone go for a test drive. My guess is many people will accidentally damage their aptera. I really hope they put some advanced sensors on the wheel pants.

  • Ray Holan

    November 2, 2021 at 5:01 pm

    Hi, John. I live in a suburb of Cleveland Ohio and, as others in this thread have mentioned, parallel parking is a rare occurrence in my life.

    However, as your parallel parking is a regular thing, I could see cobbling together large blocks of styrofoam for the front and rear of the Aptera when parallel parked. Easy to stash in the cargo area and wouldn’t add much weight. When you park, these could be secured with elastic bands similar to the OEM camper kit package. They wouldn’t withstand a heavy hit, but would protect both ends of the vehicle from the kind of taps the Aptera would sustain from some other party who was parallel parking “by ear”. They’d be homely looking, but effective.

  • Pistonboy Delux

    November 3, 2021 at 1:14 pm

    In one of his videos, Nathan Armstrong mentioned an interesting idea of what to do in cases of significant body repair. He threw out the idea of replacing the composite body. He said all components could be transferred over to a different body and it would only take about half a day.


    November 3, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    I believe, without adding any hardware, Aptera could have a sentry mode when parked that could flash headlights and sound horn when a vehicle approached (like within a foot) and then really blare when it got within 6 inches. Snapping a photo would really give it a kick! While I think the car could take a bump I don’t drive in braille and wish others would show consideration, but some just don’t!

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