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Buying/shipping an Aptera outside of California
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Buying/shipping an Aptera outside of California
updated 1 week, 1 day ago 33 Members · 56 Replies
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I am on the Big Island, so our Aptera will probably be sent to Hilo.
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I’m also on the Big Island and want to bring mine into Hilo as well, since I live nearby. @scott-gilbert suggested future Aptera owners meeting in Honolulu but maybe Hilo Aptera people should meet somewhere closer like maybe UHH library lanai – or maybe for inter-island schedule a zoom session. There’s also the Big Island EV association that occasionally gets together but I don’t see any meet-ups planned at https://www.bigislandev.org/.
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The Accelerator Program with the plan to build the LE vehicles has stipulated that the first 2000 will need to be picked up in Carlsbad , CA. Meaning driving it to Long Beach or LA to get it scheduled for Pasha or Matson shipment as vehicle / cargo transport to Hawaii. Aptera will eventually have a delivery plan for “overseas” purchases.
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Pasha ships from San Diego. Here’s the response I got back when asking Pasha about just shipping a single Aptera to Hilo:
“We would be able to ship the vehicle is you drop it off at our San Diego location. We would also need to know if there are any special starting instruction and if there is any damage on the vehicle. At the time of shipment the unit will need to be full charged. The price from San Diego to Hilo would be $2150 if you book with an agent over the phone and $2100 if you book online. If you have any further questions or concerns please contact us at 866.363.7485.”
I haven’t asked if this is on deck (probably so) or in a container. I would prefer being shielded from all the salt.
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For those who dream of driving their Aptera under the sunny skies of Hawai’i nei…. how about planning a Starbucks meetup to share the excitement? I propose 5pm on April 1st at the Kakaako Salt area Starbucks! Lots of seating for the huge crowd expected as we discuss these shipping ideas and many Aptera Outings!
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Sure can do …
Send an email to
hawaiilovestheaptera@gmail.com
and I will get us all together for a meet and greet!
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I plan to have my Aptera shipped to my address in Florida. Do I pay the California sales tax or the Florida sales tax?
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Howdy Cole,
Since as far back as I can recall these are the words.
Buyers pay sales tax where they are when the purchase is made. If you are in Florida and you buy it there then you are subject to Florida taxes. Vehicles are a little different. Sales tax is assessed by and paid to the state where the vehicle is registered and due at the time of registration.
Sellers pay income tax where they are when the sale is made. Aptera handles their own obligations.
Hope this helps.
Dan
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This reply was modified 1 week, 3 days ago by Dan McKelvy.
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As long as it’s delivered to you in Florida you only pay Florida sales tax. From what I’ve read in the Tesla New England forums there are two states that levy a sales tax on out of state buyers if the delivery occurs in the state, one of which is Massachusetts, and the other is California. The Massachusetts info is definitely true, I’m not absolutely sure about California because my only reference is a post in a forum. But as long as you take possession in Florida the sale is deemed to have taken place in Florida.
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True, Joshua, but perhaps Florida may have a law like here in Arizona where that tax paid in California is considered a credit against the taxes that would have been due if delivery had been in AZ. If the Carlsbad, CA tax rate is less than the rate here in Prescott, AZ, I will have to pay the difference to AZ. If the CA tax rate is higher than here, I would not have to pay anything to AZ (I would also NOT get the difference back).
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It seems initially at least Aptera sells in California at their factory. You pick it up and take it away from there. Therefore it seems California taxes apply. If they start dealerships somewhere, or if they do delivery at some point, … then different taxes may apply.
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Aptera will not have dealerships. Like Tesla, they will employ a direct sales to customers model. So you will always purchase an Aptera from Aptera in CA. At first taking delivery only from Carlsbad CA (Driving or shipping the vehicle to your home location) Perhaps at somepoint in the future, when their are multiple factories across North America, buy from Aptera in CA and take delivery from one of the satellite factories.
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OK, say I’m thinking of investing over $10,000 new funds into the AAP. One thing may hold be back from that: What does it cost to get the vehicle home?
Perhaps someone at Aptera could research transportation costs, then provide a chart showing the costs for different locations. Not to every home necessarily: For example, I live 20 miles from DC. If Aptera could find an agreeable location in, or near DC, to deliver the vehicles, then I would be willing to Lyft to that location.
I know some fans here have discussed driving their new Aptera home, but that is not a realistic idea for me (though it would be fun).
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I guesstimate it would be a 5 day drive from SD to DC. For anyone who needs deliver service I am available to bring the Aptera LE to you if you are agreeable to cover my driving expenses & return air flight to San Diego. I am retired & expect to take delivery of my LE Aptera during the first week of production. So I have the time to deliver an Aptera to anywhere in CONUS.
Just offering!
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Howdy Bruce,
You are very considerate and your offer is much appreciated.
It would be very helpful if your per diem was a specific number. Otherwise the cost is very open ended. Steak or salad? Holiday Estates or WeNoTell Motel? Let the choice be yours but do provide a daily max number.
Thanks much.
Dan
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I’ll let you make the lodging reservations & budget $20/day for meals & my time is “free”.
I’m not looking to make any money, I would enjoy the road trip in the LE. It would be fun.
On my road trips I stay at lodging with free breakfast which fuels me for about 8 hours.
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My understanding is that it is you (or a consortium of local buyers) who needs to arrange transportation etc. The actual costs would differ according to the number of people / the method / negotiation skills / etc and would be tricky to guess a year in advance.
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Would be great if Aptera can negotiate with a shipping company, and add a “destination charge” for those can’t pick up from SD. Every car sold has a destination charge so no one will object. Tesla is charging $1390. I bet that’s enough to ship Aptera around lower 48 states.
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Why is everyone assuming that Aptera isn’t going to ship their cars to buyers in other states? They might want to require local pickup for the first couple of hundred cars because those cars are effectively betas but after that of course they’ll ship the cars. Shipping is no big deal, there are a lot of car shippers. The cost to ship will simply be added to the purchase price, I’d guess a couple of thousand bucks to ship to the East Coast, maybe three thousand.
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The Accelerator program specifies pick up in San Diego. Some time after that they will start shipping to the buyer. They may even start shipping before the end of the accelerator program… who knows?
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Most/all start up vehicle makers took quite some time to deliver outside of their initial delivery area. Arcimoto, who has been in production for almost four years is still limiting deliveries to only 18 states and four of those were just added recently. I would not expect normal/routine deliveries outside of CA until well into the planned 5K LE production run.
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For those Purchasers of Aptera who DO NOT live in California!
I live in Pa but purchased my current car in SC. Luckily, I realized that I was going to be charged SC sales tax. Then, when I registered the car in PA, they were going charge me sales tax again to get the car registered.
“In most cases, you will pay the sales tax based on where you live, not where you buy the car. However, you’ll need temporary registration from the state of purchase to drive it home, so you’ll have to deal with two Department of Motor Vehicles offices or similar state vehicle agencies.”
1: Get a temporary license from your home state (usually it is a 30-day permit, but check)
2: Make sure your new Aptera is covered by your Auto Insurance
3: When you make it home, complete the process. Register, inspect, license plates, etc.
Here is the big one.
4: MAKE SURE you DO NOT pay California Sales Tax! Imagine trying to get it back.
The main reason that I bring this up is to ensure Aptera is properly handling this in the sales process. Sure, they should know, especially if the car is being shipped. But you don’t want to get there and have to fight it out.
I say this PRIMARILY for the Aptera people that will be handling sales, but also because most people have not experienced this situation. So, if you are a person at Aptera, please respond so we know all is well or that you have passed the information along.
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Perhaps other states may have a law like here in Arizona where that tax paid in California is considered a credit against the taxes that would have been due if delivery had been in AZ. If the Carlsbad, CA tax rate is less than the rate here in Prescott, AZ, I will have to pay the difference to AZ. If the CA tax rate is higher than here, I would not have to pay anything to AZ (I would also NOT get the difference back).
