MemberNovember 30, 2022 at 4:15 pm
If recall the IRS mileage rate is $.56 per mile. I don’t think people realize how expensive it is to drive. We have mostly fully depreciated cars but I still figure $.50 per mile for easy math. My Daughter makes Starbucks run 6 miles RT. Sometimes I remind her that her $4 drink is now $7. Many people loose money driving a low MPG fancy truck.
Anyway how cheap will the Aptera be to operate?
ICE expenses in order of cost are usually in order
Major Maintenance Annualized
Lube oil filter
I am guessing the Aptera will be less than $.20 per mile.
Depreciation $.10 per mile – (very long lived body and drivetrain)
Energy $ .05 per mile on average with many free solar miles
Major Maintenance Annualized – $.02 per mile (very little brake wear, no transmission, no emission system, tiny cooling system)
Insurance $.05 probably the same as a new $40k car
Tires $.01 (only 3 wheels very light)
LOF $.0 NA
MemberNovember 30, 2022 at 4:21 pm
So if you use your Aptera for business/charity at your estimated 20¢ per mile and the IRS allows a flat 56¢ per mile, you just made 36¢ per mile tax free!
MemberDecember 1, 2022 at 6:42 am
I could see annualized maintenance over a 10 year period costing you $500-$1500 per year.
MemberDecember 1, 2022 at 7:04 am
You are probably close in everything but the energy cost. If the Aptera gets 10 miles per KW that is about 1.4 cents a mile in my market. If you consider just 20 free miles a day from solar that would give you around 7000 “free miles”. I wonder how many miles per year your gestimate is based on.
MemberDecember 1, 2022 at 7:31 am
Where I lived in California it would have been at LEAST 3.2¢/mile while here in Arizona it will be 1.13¢
MemberDecember 1, 2022 at 8:34 am
Don’t forget public charging versus charging at home, too, since not everyone can charge at home.
Here it’s around $0.90/kWh from a public charger, versus around $0.40/kWh for charging at home, and around 40% of people can’t charge at home (no off-street parking, etc).
MemberDecember 1, 2022 at 10:00 am
Just looked at my Tesla app, my most recent Supercharger rate was 35 cents/KWh, the highest I’ve seen it is 50 cents/KWh, which translates into 3.5 – 5 cents/mile depending on when and where you Supercharge. My home rate is 25 cents so the 35 cent Supercharger rate that I got last week is very reasonable.
MemberDecember 1, 2022 at 6:07 pm
Here we pay about 11 cents per kWh. So our Leaf cost 3.5 cents per mile. The Aptera will be just over 1 cent per mile to charge. The cost to fast charge will also come down with competition, once there are more chargers in one location and they don’t have you just thankful for a place to charge.
MemberDecember 1, 2022 at 10:31 pm
So $2.00 charge is enough charge to drive for 3 hours. Unfortunately driving that far I’m getting atleast 2 starbucks coffees. If Aptera really wants to bring for down my cost of driving they should get rid of the cup holder.
MemberDecember 2, 2022 at 7:38 am
It was a quick swag on most items. I used to track this pretty close. My 04 Corolla was around $.23 per mile after I had put 200k miles on it that was based on 20,000 miles per year.
I think you are right about the energy cost. I as way high. I bet averaging 15000 miles per year and mixing in some premium supercharging time you could safely say $.02 per mile. Power in Utah is still stupid cheap. $.10 per kWhr. So even in California where it is more expensive you still might only be $.04 per mile