- MemberJune 5, 2022 at 9:03 am
I have been considering downsizing to a 600 mile range from the 1000 mile that we reserved, which was based on a guesstimate of 20% range loss that may be too much. The final decision will be based on the (currently unavailable) real-life data for range loss due to using AC, speeds of 65-75mph for 60 minutes per trip, and AWD. I understand that I will be contacted when the order is officially placed and I assume a down payment will be required then. Will I be able to talk to a sales person and decide the battery I need to order at the time? At what point is my order final? With luck, the gamma model will produce some real-life data that I can use to figure out the range that will work for us long before the order deadline.
- This discussion was modified 6 months ago by Laura Batchelor.
- ModeratorJune 5, 2022 at 10:01 am
I suppose to can try to start a conversation through email@example.com but YES…too much to be validated to make the final decision which is not due until our reservation morph or orders
Like with any EV ( although Aptera has a super efficient edge….) Speed, added weight of batteries and AWD, heating/ cooling all factor into range.
60kWh is my sweet spot too, but each have their own needs. I choose all options too …but will see how things pan out
Exciting times ahead?!
- MemberJune 5, 2022 at 10:12 am
there is a site called ‘motormatchup.com’ where you can check ev efficiency (based on specs) you can “build” your current order and compare it to the 60 kw and adjust weight, speed, elevation, temperature, etc. and get the range specs for comparison.
- MemberJune 5, 2022 at 12:13 pm
This site is frequently identified in this forum. The caution is that the Aptera specs are not representative of production performance or perhaps not completely accurate for the engineering based projections.
- MemberJune 5, 2022 at 12:19 pm
You will be able to adjust your reservation as often as you wish until you are contacted to place an order. I am sure you will have plenty of time to gather performance data as it is released now through the final specs on production models. I am sure the person that contacts you can answer any additional questions you have at that time. Once the order is placed, there will not be a chance to change it as it will go as a spec for a delivery vehicle to the production team.
I believe that most reservation holders have a good idea of what they want in their Aptera even at this early stage. I have not change my two reservations since placing them.
- This reply was modified 6 months ago by Jonah Jorgenson. Reason: added addressee
- MemberJune 5, 2022 at 12:51 pm
I made two changes: Added the back window solar panels, and changed the color from silver to white.
- MemberJune 5, 2022 at 12:19 pm
@Laura Batchelor – Although Aptera has no sales team at this time if other online vehicle sales models are any reference, there will probably be an “advisor” with whom you can speak if need be when your pre-order number comes up.
As with any custom order (like furniture, for example) I think it’s safe to assume that we’ll be asked for a significant deposit (either a flat fee or a percentage of the order price) to confirm the order when they’re ready to build your vehicle. It is most likely that – at that time – your order will be finalized. In other words, any “deadlines” will be specific to your order and not set to a random calendar date.
As I recall, when Tesla launched the Model 3 they asked for an initial reservation deposit and then a second deposit when production began to finalize the order. They then required full payment when the vehicle was soon to be built. But my memory of the event could be spotty…
- MemberJune 5, 2022 at 1:06 pm
I had made a couple of changes to our order as more info became available, but we are still debating the battery size. A LOT! 🙂 I was fairly sure that I’d be able to talk to the person finalizing the order but this is a whole new experience for me, so I wanted to make sure of how the purchasing process works. Thanks to everyone for their input. I feel better now…
- MemberJune 5, 2022 at 2:41 pm
There is no need to make any changes to your reservation now, you’ll have plenty of time to adjust it once they go into production. The reservation list is an expression of interest more than anything else right now. It gives them an idea of what features will be popular and what won’t which is why if you really think you might want the 1000 mile version then you should leave the order alone, it tells them that there customers who are interested in it. At some point they’ll publish a real delivery schedule along with the tradeoffs for each variant, when we have that then we will all be in a better position to make our final choices.
- MemberJune 5, 2022 at 10:26 pm
@Laura Batchelor – BTW, 20-30% are very realistic guesstimates: Remember the phrase, “Your mileage may vary.”?
Founder Chris stated, at one point, that we should expect to pay a 10% range penalty for AWD – so, right off the top, 1000 miles becomes 900 miles and 600 miles becomes 540 miles. Now, if you take into account that you’ll most frequently be charging to 80% while traveling, 900 becomes 720 and 540 becomes 432.
From there you need to consider weather, changes in elevation, road surface conditions, speed, weight of driver, passenger and cargo, heat or AC, etc. – so split the difference and deduct 25% just to be on the safe side: 720 is now 540 and 432 is slips to 324.
Until such time as charging infrastructure comes to the highways of my state, the closest DC fast charger to my home is 297 miles away, in the next state. I chose the 600-mile Aptera because – even in this worst-case scenario – I’ll be guaranteed to make it to that charging location!
- MemberJune 13, 2022 at 12:40 pm
Thanks kerbe2705 for the numbers. I’m one of those overthinkers. According to my brain, if 1 of something is good, 2 is better so I will decide to get 3, but then go with 4 just to make sure there are extras… just in case.