MemberJuly 21, 2022 at 9:42 pm
I see the new Gamma design of Aptera in the recently added Fleet tab of their website. What ideas can you think of where Aptera could promote this vehicle online or at events to the fleet and rental market that would not cost much?
At 355 MPGe I recall a person that wanted to use it for a group of Uber Eats drivers. I talked to a business owner that owns more than a half dozen E-bike stores in the hot Southwest and rents out EV vehicles. He saw a good fit for Aptera because it has room for luggage, heat, and air conditioning. He plans to add his company logo to the vehicles to increase his exposure. Plus he said a vehicle “Driven by the Sun” looks more like a vehicle “Driven for Fun”.
MemberJuly 21, 2022 at 10:27 pm
They really should have mocked up a fake company wrap in the fleet renderings. The aptera is an incredibly eye catching vehicle and for many businesses a fleet vehicle is as much about being a rolling billboard as a tool to get around.
MemberJuly 22, 2022 at 1:59 am
it will be very interesting to see how other EV’s do in rental fleets, is customer interest growing?
Now with the lower priced Bolt will rental fleets now offer it as an economy car pricing?
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I do not see Aptera as a great big city vehicle, but a great open road vehicle, especially with its longer range and faster charging MPH than other EV’s.
ModeratorJuly 22, 2022 at 6:18 am
What I had sent in , over the years (in blog threads and firstname.lastname@example.org ) …any services that could work within the two seater, 500# payload and cargo design etc…
Like some of these that come to mind at the moment…
Home Health nurse, computer tech, any Sales Rep, Solar, Home finishes/repair , pest service sales, mall/casino/community /stadium security , any food delivery service, ZAP vehicle service etc
I live in big retirement state. Golf carts are used often to scoot around. The Aptera will not fit in the town’s dedicated cart lanes but… who wants to get behind a cart😉 Aptera is much safer too!
Campuses like Corporate, Hospital , Universities, Government have maintenance and transport ( shuttles ) small vehicles
Isn’t there a move to electrify Federal vehicles?!
Hey you know the *EVSE-Angels we hope will form in greater numbers… to audit public EVSE… What better vehicle to check out and report status of the public EVSE as they soak up some of their power from the sun! ( I suggested *this in a ADOT meeting talking about our state’s EVSE Roll Out Plans)
MemberJuly 22, 2022 at 7:21 am
I saw the pictures of Gamma under the Fleet header. I could not tell if these were actual pictures or not. It was good to see them regardless,
I just wonder why they were not released in any other way?
MemberJuly 22, 2022 at 11:16 am
You can see a better image (the full image used on the fleet page) at:
I’m guessing these are renders, but it could be a touched up version of the actual gamma vehicle. There is definitely a lot of photoshop work done on this image so it is a bit hard to tell.
The image is good to see though, looks like a LOT of progress over Alpha / Beta (not that beta was ever much to look at).
Now, to get the production line in place!
MemberJuly 22, 2022 at 1:58 pm
No question, they are renders. No Gamma revealed yet some think mid August, other around the early September time. Would be more impact and more credible if a picture of an actual Gamma
ModeratorJuly 22, 2022 at 11:26 am
I am set to hit the road in AZ
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MemberJuly 22, 2022 at 2:01 pm
If actually do this, be sure to get written permission from Aptera as I am sure all three are copywrited. And you will have to use their color and size definitions.
MemberJuly 22, 2022 at 12:08 pm
Perusing the fleet page, I see the first ‘entity’ listed are utilities.
In year’s past, utilities – think member-driven co-ops – have been known to ‘sponsor’ products for their customers. Many are engaged in community development and all sorts of things like industrial development, etc. – you know locally subsidized 100,000 sq. ft. facilities including green field communities – where local economies chug along with opportunities being less frequent than in past decades.
And here Aptera comes with a package that includes six component areas to build a complete vehicle that could, in the case of electric utilities, have a special ‘sharing’ relationship on their 1000 mile batteries that effectively makes each vehicle a ‘node’ in a distributed battery backup system deployed in the co-op’s service area.
The “local” assembly plant becomes a joint-venture and would make from 5,000 to 20,000 Aptera … or maybe a local ‘inventor’ see’s how to cobble together any thing from an electric tractor for farming operations to an electric pickup all made using the Aptera formula of modular components and composite monocoque construction.
And because these utility-built Aptera are part of a utility led smart grid design (distributed battery backup) they make the vehicles available to their customers at subsidized rates. The switch enabling the subsidy would likely be from the software with possibly a digital key inserted in the vehicle. That means customers would have the option to participate in the subsidy or not.
Then there is the per-use rental gig where the Aptera earns money by the mile and, because of the integration with the grid in these utility compliant vehicles, the utilities can use the aggregate battery storage while making a profit from its use by individuals as a rental vehicle.
Aptera would in a sense adopt a mixed ‘franchise’ structure with franchised makers like the utilities choosing their production runs and ultimately new products, which could be developed and engineered by Aptera and its franchisee’s under the agreements. (Kind of like when a franchisee adds a new menu item that proves popular and is adopted by the franchisor.)
And as far as the fleet vehicles, they can buy them, which is fine, but going the route of making them expands the growth and benefits of Aptera to the broadest possible market more quickly than any other method; thus saving the world (The world is ‘saved’ if there are 2 million Aptera on the road in 2030.)
PS: We can never forget that we’re on a tight timeline with the environment. The genius of Aptera’s construction and assembly is that is essentially moving to commodify the components into parts products. The more widely used those commodified components are, the stronger the restraint on pricing as different suppliers may be drawn to produce particular components if those components are easily adapted to multiple vehicles designed on the same lean engineering concepts of Aptera.
Indeed, our salvation is not with the technology, but rather the technology being accessible in a time of economic uncertainty.
Could you imagine the stock value of Aptera stock if an announcement that they had partnered with suppliers x,y and z and a major electric utility in the southeast to assemble over the next five years 60,000 smart-grid compatible vehicles that, in aggregate, represents six-gigawatts of battery storage available to the grid for backup. The utility announces it will produced these smart-grid capable Aptera for use in its operations fleet, in a on-demand rental offering in the city and as a vehicle customers can lease at subsidized rates that cut the cost of transportation expenses in a family to under 10 percent of the average household income, freeing the family from the expensive burden of ownership including insurance.
The prospect of these kinds of announcements in the future, makes me excited.
PS: What America really needs is the broad-based education possible through the proliferation of lean-design concepts demonstrated by Aptera’s manufacturing design. Folks see that, they understand it and innovation returns and we make additional steps toward sustainable living.
MemberJuly 22, 2022 at 1:56 pm
Really great idea here! Gets community, utility, and Aptera purchaser in a synergistic relationship! Also broadens the use case for Aptera. A lot of effort to make something like this work and maybe only in certain areas. A place to expend some Aptera funds after production is steady state and a successful IPO.
MemberJuly 22, 2022 at 6:32 pm
If SeaWorld doesn’t buy and wrap a few of these then they’re just wasting everybody’s time.
MemberJuly 22, 2022 at 6:51 pm
SOL model with full Solar so Black on top & White on the bottom with personalized plates of “MYORCA” (My Orca)