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Glowing green logoPosted by g-n on December 5, 2021 at 11:41 am
Could we talk you out of the huge, glowing green logo on the side? It detracts from the otherwise sleek appearance – especially while driving.
I don’t mind the design of the logo itself – only the huge size and the fact that it’s illuminated. Maybe also the green color. 🙂 Reminds me of fast-food delivery cars. Not a good look.
Imagine a 3”-diameter white logo that glows only when you’re about to get in the car. Classy, right?
Anybody else agree?G N replied 6 months ago 26 Members · 49 Replies
Glowing green logoG N updated 6 months ago 26 Members · 49 Replies
lenModeratorDecember 5, 2021 at 1:35 pm
Well IMHO you are are asking Aptera Motors Corporation to change their logo color in that location (and perhaps the front ?)
A colored logo referred to them as a hearth felt symbol!
I am ok with it being green
I suppose you could lighten , change the color etc it once it is yours?
One function of the glow is charging “ I believe “
Many EV these days have a welcoming sequencing of body lights upon entry it start up…
My wife’s vehicle projects the vehicle’s brand logo on the ground when the door opens like a welcome mat
Some people remove all badging and/or monotone their vehicles
When I first saw the orange accents in the Vida interior I thought “ That seems bright and I like to other colors in that interior” Then I saw it first hand and ❤️ it!
I hope to grows on you
( I live in an area with many naturalist who are bird watchers and there issue is all the chimes and rings cars make when they stop, open their door or start their vehicle as it frightens the birds
They have disarmed them)
BUGMemberDecember 5, 2021 at 2:20 pm
I would like it if it was a Multifunctional Indicator – Flashing Brightly (Selectable Color, as there will soon be as many APTERAS as Priuses), as You remotely unlock YOURS. That it would indicate State of Charge as You Approach the (Charging) Car Maybe dimly showing Red, Yellow or Green, or ROYGBIV. That it Would Blink RED if Folks Touched the Vehicle without a KeyFob “In Range”. It could also function as a “Somebody Hit/Messed with The Vehicle” indicator.
It is a Car Badge, OnlyFound On Vehicles since they were Invented. The Company wants to Advertise, and to be Identifiable. The Shape of the car IS unique enough for ID, FOREVER, I should think!
RonnieMemberDecember 5, 2021 at 3:53 pm
I think their green “glogo” looks good; unique, identifiable & represents new age electric with its luminescence. It’s my opinion, of course.
trollfaced-hudagmail-comMemberDecember 5, 2021 at 7:03 pm
logo needs to be replaced with “aptera” written out, so people can search it up and talk about it. search by image is not mainstream nor is barcode scanner. it can be small b/c people dont want big logo that can be seen from far and if they are ok with it they can have it for free while other wraps have extra charge.
kerbe2705MemberDecember 5, 2021 at 9:40 pm
I’m happy with the small glogo on the nose – and would love to see another on the tail. The oversized glogos and the white dots on the sides, though, are – IMHO – design overkill. And – even though they are LED-lit – they’re still draining power…
PhilMemberDecember 5, 2021 at 11:59 pm
There was a community post topic a month or so back called “other descriptive names” and I suggested the Aptera Audacity. Aside from phonically sticking with a letter A, I thought it spoke to it’s disruption of the auto industry. Whatever Aptera decides to call their first vehicle (or not), the words Aptera, followed by the model name either on the front and/or back should be done, in addition to the green light logo on the side. Not that Aptera needs to copy legacy automakers, but they usually did have a vehicle and or company name spelled out somewhere, in addition to the company logo/badge.
OZ.MemberDecember 6, 2021 at 6:06 am
g-johnsMemberDecember 6, 2021 at 5:07 am
I like it just the way it is. If it bothers you cover it with duct tape.
peter-jorgensenMemberDecember 6, 2021 at 7:33 am
If you don’t like it, cover it with black vinyl wrap – or unplug it. There are easy solutions to this.
RileyMemberDecember 7, 2021 at 8:08 am
I don’t mind the logo, but one of the first things I will do is unplug it. Would rather not have anything police can misconstrued as illegal.
arlen-bellMemberDecember 7, 2021 at 4:31 pm
Perhaps the logo construction/ function has been covered elsewhere and I missed it, but it would seem to make sense that the logo could be a translucent panel that pretty much blends into the vehicle color when not lit. It could incorporate a multi color led light that could several functions – and be switched off manually or by time ie after parked for a while. I think it’s an interesting logo and I have no problem with it.
wayne.forkumMemberDecember 7, 2021 at 6:48 pm
If you make the car, you get to pick the logo. True story.
g-nMemberDecember 8, 2021 at 10:47 am
To those criticizing this request for its triviality:
You and I might buy an Aptera even if the side logo is distracting to other drivers and ugly-big/bright – out of altruistic environmental concern alone.
But some fraction of potential buyers won’t. If we want the vehicle to have maximum impact on the market, we should want to help them improve the product and increase its appeal.
Pragmatic_to_a_FaultMemberNovember 26, 2022 at 9:38 pm
Never looked at it like that. Glowing green. Green light means go. Rammed by drunk driver ?
Legality of the green lights :
vehicles in motion can only have white or amber to the front, red or amber to the sides, and red or amber to the rear (with the exception of the white backup lights and license plate light). So they can have the fancy colored lights when they’re parked, but should turn them off before moving.
- This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by James Lee.
FlytosailMemberNovember 27, 2022 at 8:32 am
One of the reasons that Toyota Prius did better then the other hybrids is that it “looked different”. Their owners by default were:
“Let me tell you that I care about the environment without telling you that I care about the environment.”
Reminder: This is my opinion from talking to many of their owners. It is not a valid scientific experiment. So if you disagree. Sorry.
Aptera by default looks so different that if they are worried about not getting noticed by other drivers because they don’t have a bright green logo on the side, they should be more about about that driver hitting their vehicle.
Disclaimer: None of my cars have dealer plates/decals. My 718 is debadged , but I do have a vanity tag as homage to the greatest Nurburgring driver of all times.
GNiessenMemberNovember 27, 2022 at 1:47 pm
First, I like the logo. But it is unlikely to be lite while moving. Having it lite while charging are parked would be nice. Some control over it is definitely a possibility. Maybe not initially, but later with an over the air update.
Pragmatic_to_a_FaultMemberNovember 27, 2022 at 6:04 pm
Side cowl or fender lamps.- Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two side cowl or fender lamps that:
(1) Emit an amber or white light without glare; and
(2) Are located at or near the front of the vehicle.Side cowl or fender lamps.- Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two side cowl or fender lamps that:
It also goes into motorcycle laws
I asked my best friend ( retired law enforcement )
He said they’re not legal but doubts they’d ever get pulled over for it.
Unless you were speeding or reckless driving Then it’s just 1 more violation to cite you for.
ROMADMemberNovember 28, 2022 at 9:57 am
Ah, it is a Maryland state law, not a Federal one. Thank you.
anthony-gutierrezMemberNovember 28, 2022 at 10:11 am
I do not agree. I love it. It’s not huge. It looks great in person. I want to keep it.
curtis-cibinelMemberNovember 28, 2022 at 2:04 pm
When Aptera posted about it on twitter half the responses were to either delete it, delay it, turn it off or change to RGB. If its cosmetic, has some regional legal issues and half the people don’t want it as is then remove it. Ideally make the panel easily replaceable so eventually either Aptera or 3rd parties can readd it or even make different versions (ie e-ink displays)
Pragmatic_to_a_FaultMemberNovember 29, 2022 at 1:36 am
I read through the federal lighting laws.
White amber front
Red amber rear
No mention of legal green anywhere
Just red white and amber
I suggest you check with your state to see if the glowing green logo is legal. State law if it’s more restrictive trumps federal law.
So if your state says it’s illegal. Guess what. It’s illegal.
Just like motorcycle helmets. Gotta wear them in Maryland don’t have to in PA. However if the bike is titled anywhere BUT. Pennsylvania. You better have your helmet on.
Always know the laws of different states and countries or you could end up like Britney Griner. My bad… Too soon ?
- This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by James Lee.
ROMADMemberNovember 29, 2022 at 7:24 am
Thanks for the info, Patrick.
The only front colors I’d ever heard definitely banned are the emergency ones of red and blue. The headlights are restricted to white (no yellow like France had), turn signals amber, but parking and fog can be amber or white. I believe accessory driving lights are also restricted to white.
anthony-gutierrezMemberNovember 29, 2022 at 10:27 am
As far as CA goes: California Vehicle Code: Div 12, Chap 2, Article 6
In addition to the lamps otherwise permitted by this chapter, any motor vehicle may be equipped with lamps on the sides thereof, visible from the side of the vehicle but not from the front or rear thereof, which lamps, together with mountings or receptacles, shall be set into depressions or recesses in the body of the vehicle and shall not protrude beyond or outside the body of the vehicle. The light source in each of the lamps shall not exceed two candlepower and shall emit diffused light of any color, except that the color red is permitted only on authorized emergency vehicles.
- This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by Anthony Gutierrez. Reason: formatting
ROMADMemberNovember 29, 2022 at 10:46 am
Which makes the green logo legal there. Maybe there could be a setting the user could toggle to disable it in states where side mounted lights that aren’t visible from the front or rear are still illegal.
OK, here is what I found for Arizona in Title 28, Chapter 3, Article 16, Section 28-931 “Lamp Colors” of the Arizona Revised Statues https://www.azleg.gov/arsDetail/?title=28
28-931. Lamp colors
A. Front clearance lamps and those marker lamps and reflectors mounted on the front or on the side near the front of a vehicle shall display or reflect an amber color.
B. Rear clearance lamps and those marker lamps and reflectors mounted on the rear or on the sides near the rear of a vehicle shall display or reflect a red color.
C. All lighting devices and reflectors mounted on the rear of any vehicle shall display or reflect a red color, except that:
1. The stoplight or other signal device may be red, amber or yellow, except on a commercial vehicle, as defined in section 28-2231, the stoplight shall be red and the other signal devices shall be red or amber.
2. The light illuminating the license plate or the light emitted by a backup lamp shall be white.
Looks like it will be legal here in AZ
- This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by Dennis Swaney. Reason: Added AZ statute on vehicle lamp colors
mickey-mcmillianMemberNovember 29, 2022 at 11:09 am
Thanks Anthony…. nobody should worry about the Logo being illegal in their State or anywhere else, it is a Lighted Logo and will not be considered to be a Lamp as to the definition of a Lamp or Light. Granted the video of the Logo at night was bright, but remember this was not the Delta version. These little things like other things will be flushed out and addressed. The Logo on the side is a great accent and personally I think it looks great! I would love it to be off when the vehicle is parked and as you approach it, when it recognizes you, be it blue tooth, card or fob, it comes on at full brightness like to greet you, then after you put it into gear it dims down to a beautiful green glow like many interior lights do now…just not turn off….just a nice green glow when you drive…. and when you stop and put it into park, it lights up fully until you are out sensor range and then just turns off. There are many cool things that can be done with the Logo on the Aptera, and I am sure all the Electrical Engineers will consider all the cool ways to make the vehicle even more unique. But Nobody has to worry about it being Illegal to drive in their State or Country, all the laws will be addressed and I am sure they already have been addressed. No Worries.
anthony-gutierrezMemberNovember 29, 2022 at 12:07 pm
These are all excellent ideas. I love them. I for one am not worried. I’ve seen a lot of people on various social media platforms claiming it’s illegal and I wanted to post what I found for public consumption. I love the glowgo and I sure hope they keep it. Rock on!
craig-merrowMemberNovember 30, 2022 at 10:51 am
Another thought related to a comment earlier in this thread: since Aptera is so unique, and with no emblems to identify it, maybe a simply license plate frame with “aptera.us” on it would be enough advertising for someone who sees it can look up the Aptera website?
- This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by Craig Merrow. Reason: Posting
BikerModeratorNovember 30, 2022 at 11:19 am
The space in the back by the plate is very tight and any kind of frame/writing would be very small – remember, very little about this vehicle is like other vehicles.
paul-carlucciMemberDecember 1, 2022 at 4:53 am
Plug in cars have glowing indicators to provide a visual individual of charge status and feedback like that is what I see as the most likely use of the glowgos. They could also use the logo to reply if the knock knock failed to detect a paired phone or NFC read error. Otherwise I don’t think they’ll be in use when the vehicle is on.
There are definite legal considerations here and getting DOT certification on lights isn’t a low hurdle to hop over. When in motion a red or particularly blue glowing logo would be very problematic. I could see the front being white or simply never illuminating whereas the side logos could theoretical be amber while the vehicle is in motion but most likely they’ll probably leave it off.
MykMemberDecember 1, 2022 at 10:25 am
In Australia, it’s illegal to show a green light that is visible to the front, so given the placement, the glogo on the sides should be ok, but no glogo would be permissible on the front while driving. But I’m sure Aptera will take steps to meet the ADRs when they bring cars here. I am interested to know whether the Aptera will require a motorcycle licence in Australia, or if a car licence will be sufficient. I’ll be fine either way, but it would be a pain if my wife can’t drive it.
ROMADMemberDecember 1, 2022 at 11:54 am
christopher-barrettMemberDecember 3, 2022 at 5:10 am
I think the glologo is just fine, and I still would like an explanation of its origin and meaning. Looking like a leaf, to me, inside the shell of what “earth” and green like the trees? Is there a story behind this logo, or a reason it is part of the overall. The flying lady of Rolls-Royce is very recognizable. But she adds to drag, so she will not be on my nose of my Aptera. Being flat, and part of the body, makes it different enough, that I like it, but the reason it is the way it is, might be nice if I understood why it was picked. I guess I am not an art critique type, but to my mind the green is the vegetation of the earth, the new leaf maybe gives hope that the green on the planet will flourish. Anybody out there know?
GreekMemberDecember 3, 2022 at 5:37 am
This is the response from Nicole Hall, Customer Success Associate, Aptera Team:
Thanks for asking us about this! Our logo represents the curvature of Aptera’s aerodynamic shape and design. You’ll also notice the circle is partially open to represent how we are always continuously improving, and that we will never “close the circle” by constantly building upon our ideas and innovations! It also represents a lowercase a a for aptera. You might also see how it looks like a lily pad or a leaf, a representation of nature to represent aptera’s commitment to doing better for the earth.