Liquid metal battery technology – Donald Sadoway

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  • Liquid metal battery technology – Donald Sadoway

  • Paul Brand

    Member
    August 17, 2022 at 7:26 am

    Liquid metal battery technology – eliminates dendrite problem, but has other hurdles (like temp)

    https://youtu.be/tkUniKbUqp0

    Ambri growing pains to bring their battery tech to production

    https://youtu.be/IR95IkjpAvA

    Aluminum battery being developed by Avanti Battery

    https://youtu.be/v3oO0WeH2KE

    Older TED talk

    https://youtu.be/Sddb0Khx0yA

    How to contact Professor Sadoway

    http://www.donaldsadoway.com/contact.html

  • Jonah Jorgenson

    Member
    August 17, 2022 at 8:14 am

    There are a myriad of new battery technologies under development. All claim to be game changers. All are looking for funding except the Chinese battery companies who have the current lions share of the market and massive funding for R&D.

    For a battery tech to become a commercial success it needs to be proven in a lab and have a good story. (All have a “Good” story), needs to be manufacturable in large quantities with minimal defects in the production process, low cost to manufacture and sell, and proven in real world driving conditions.

    Two more things are important money and time. Adequately and consistently funded efforts will take years to come to market and most will fail to do so.

    I would add this one to the long list of potential future battery. A clue to me that this one will not succeed is that an academic is the primary proponent. If an engineer r business person I would think a better chance.

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  • Curtis Cibinel

    Member
    August 17, 2022 at 8:27 am

    It appears in June and July they passed major hurtles with a manufacturing facility and now UL certification.

    https://ambri.com/news/

    PS: It would be awesome to know how their pilot deployment at TerraScale (reported in Nov/Dec 2020) went but I’d assume it may have hit snags of some kind (silence is generally not golden when talking about new technologies)

    • Jonah Jorgenson

      Member
      August 17, 2022 at 8:42 am

      As there are no technical specs I think this is not a vehicle use case battery. Perhaps a potential threat for the Tesla Power Wall. But nothing since 2020 so, at this point, I don’t consider it a short/near term viable storage technology.

      Personal opinion (Not a battery engineer) I think CATL or BYD has the R&D lead for practical EV storage solutions for near/mid term. Open book for long term

      • Bob Kirchner

        Member
        August 17, 2022 at 6:17 pm

        Ambri’s product is primarily intended for large facility or grid scale storage. The energy density is just too poor, and the product too large (think shipping containers as the form factor) to store energy at the household level.

        • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by  Bob Kirchner.
  • Wes Man

    Member
    August 19, 2022 at 5:45 am

    I love the idea of the Ambri liquid metal batteries that refine themselves with use.

    I reached out about home scale, and that’s no where on their radar yet. But if we’re talking about shipping container size, I could see one of the smaller versions of this being CO-OP’d to support a few blocks during blackouts.

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