Manufacturing plans

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Aptera Community Aptera Discussions Manufacturing plans

  • Manufacturing plans

     John Trotter updated 1 week, 1 day ago 43 Members · 89 Posts
  • Harry Parker

    Moderator
    September 17, 2022 at 5:28 pm

    One employee at the factory tour or the reveal ( I forget which) mentioned production ramping up “mid-year”, say Q2 next year.

    The way I figure it is that production starts early next year but the first few dozen will be tested to the max, including destructive crash testing, over the first few months of 2023. Only IF they pass all their safety and performance tests THEN we might see the first Apteras in customer’s hands in March or April. If ANY major mechanical weakness shows up, we will be waiting for quite a few more months for a redesign and repeated testing.

  • Qiang Fu

    Member
    September 17, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    With all the talks on ramping up production, the reality is that we have not yet seen a prototype that is tested to achieve all the claimed specs. Without knowing the test data from gamma, we don’t really know what gaps and remaining technical challenges Delta needs to overcome.

  • Dan Roberts

    Member
    September 17, 2022 at 10:45 pm

    Build the damn thing. Iterate on the fly. If you have 30k orders build a few and sell them. Let’s move! Production is hell, so let’s get through it now.

    • Riley …

      Member
      September 18, 2022 at 1:37 am

      I agree, get the car on the road now and just tell the early customers that the vehicle is untested and safety/durability is unknown. Only issue is damage to the brand if someone dies or too many vehicles fail costing the company a lot of warranty repairs. They could heavily restrict early vehicles warranty but I would have to pass on my early reservation if they did that.

    • John Voules

      Member
      September 18, 2022 at 8:59 am

      We are approaching this as sort of a domesday count down. So we don’t get a vehicle out by 2022…it actually happens second or 3rd week of 2023. The company’s position does not change for the better or worse. We are putting arbitrary pressure with goals that don’t mean much as long as the product is produced and is truly ready for market. NOTHINGS KILLS a company faster than a product that comes out prematurely ready with faults (safety and or cosmetic) that will be the 1st impression that will be experienced. Naysayers will jump all over it and momentum for what should be a world changer gets put in the dumpster.

      Investors are putting money where their mouth is and are showing deep faith in APTERA’s management and their decision making, which is based on their past experience with APTERA and their other companies which they have created.

      Posting this Slipping of date production makes for discontent and adds worry to claimed knowledge of development which only APTERA management would truly have. Information that APTERA wants you to have will be given to us when the time is considered right by them…other than internal leaks if they exist.

      As for comparisons of other vehicles and their pricing, sorry can’t compare a 4 door vehicle, an suv or a van directly to an APTERA. You can make a greater case as a sport car with tons of space, a commuter car or even a long haul traveler for up to two people. And while we’re comparing , who else has solar panels?

  • Joshua Rosen

    Member
    September 18, 2022 at 8:54 am

    My guess is that first deliveries won’t happen before the end of Q1. They said that they haven’t finalized a lot of their supplier agreements yet, it doesn’t seem possible that they can have even one vehicle with all production parts by the end of this year. I suppose they could deliver a late prototype to an employee this year and call it a shipment, they might even deliver a handful to employees, but those cars won’t be production vehicles they will just be test vehicles.

  • Rupert Jung

    Member
    September 21, 2022 at 7:20 am

    Crash test results are overwhelmingly important for me. Don’t care if the government is calling this a ‘autocycle’, a motorbike or a car (which it is).

    Basic (proven) safety is not a luxury for me and neither should be for someone else.

    • John Trotter

      Moderator
      September 21, 2022 at 7:54 pm

      Robert Jung. I agree. Crash testing is a requirement, moral and ethical if not legalistic for “autocycles”. Chris has gone on record saying it will be done first. His credibility and the company’s reputation is on the line. I don’t know that design is complete enough yet to do accurate simulation, but experts should review if that is enough for a start.

  • OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)

    Member
    September 21, 2022 at 12:49 pm

    The original stated production order for the various model was stated at least as far back as the first day of reservations (12/4/20) on a FaceBook Video chat. It was:

    400 mile

    250 mile

    600 mile

    1,000 mile

    During the busy week of the Fully Charged show, at a factory tour before hand, it was recorded during an unscripted battery brief as being 400-600-250-1,000, it appeared to go unnoticed at the time, but was picked up by intrepid viewers of the video. Since then it has been making the rounds here and elsewhere as the new order, with various opinions offered as to why it was changed. As it seemed an unusual change, that had not been formally announced I inquired. The response from Aptera follows:

    Thanks for asking about this! It was misspoken, our apologies! The planned order at this time is still 400, 250, 600 and then 1,000. Please let me know if we can be of any further assistance!

    Driving solar mobility forward,
    Nicole Hall
    Community Success Associate”

    The production order, at this time, remains:

    400 mile

    250 mile

    600 mile

    1,000 mile

  • Hee-Choon Lee

    Member
    September 21, 2022 at 12:58 pm

    Thanks for getting the answer for all of us 🙂

  • Joshua Rosen

    Member
    September 21, 2022 at 1:06 pm

    Sorry to here that because I’m waiting on the 600 however it makes sense. The 250 is just a depopulated 400 pack, doesn’t take much engineering to pull some batteries out. The 600 and 1000 are larger cells, that will take work.

  • Sam Adams

    Member
    September 21, 2022 at 6:57 pm

    Thanks for sharing the response from Aptera, it definitely clears that up.

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