Realistic delivery time

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  • Patrick Liebknecht

    Member
    February 7, 2022 at 5:07 pm
    • John Malcom

      Member
      February 7, 2022 at 6:49 pm

      A fairly “Gentle” report with hopeful content. I think reflective of the climate of openness we all enjoy from Aptera. Fosters trust/hope.

    • John Malcom

      Member
      February 12, 2022 at 1:43 pm

      Those familiar with production control and acustom to production expressed as an s-curve (To include me) find this expression of production bewildering. After second thoughts Aptera is plowing new ground with their Sandy Munro designed lean production approach. Maybe we will learn a new distribution curve for production.

  • Gabriel Kemeny

    Moderator
    February 11, 2022 at 8:36 am

    From the investor virtual conf yesterday:

    • Ivan Aladzajkov

      Member
      February 11, 2022 at 9:01 am

      Yes, as per the graph, 1st delivery on December 31st 2022 🙂

  • GLENN ZAJIC

    Member
    February 11, 2022 at 11:56 am

    I do not recall ever seeing anything like this graph being put out before. All things considered, I love it! Looks promising and quite possible. Best to them!

  • Robert Klasson

    Member
    February 11, 2022 at 1:34 pm

    If they can manage the production rate in that graph it would be great. Looks like they are aiming for a production rate of about 5000 units/year only a month after first delivery, and ramp up to 10000 units/year after six months and 20000 units/year after 14 or 15 months. I would have guessed low rate initial production would be less and/or last for longer.

  • John Trotter

    Moderator
    February 11, 2022 at 1:42 pm

    I would have expected more “S-like”, with a slower start and reaching a top end asymtotically. And, I wonder what the uncertainty bars are? No matter, this is more transparency than any other current EV maker, Tesla included.

    • Jonah Jorgenson

      Member
      March 28, 2022 at 3:31 pm

      Yes, I would have expected the S curve as well, the text book solution. But there is nothing text book about Aptera and they constantly pull a rabbit out of a hat, So will go with them for now

  • Abi Bellamkonda

    Member
    March 22, 2022 at 2:07 pm

    @Cameron McGuinness Hi mate. Australia generated 5% interest/orders. Customising a RHD and regional settings are easy. Just getting through our VicRoads might be time consuming. Regardless my order is #484, I am an investor, paradigm owner and ambassador. They said I will most likely receive early 2023. Since it’s 10k cars per year and currently orders are at 16,900 you could get by 2024. It really depends on how bad the entire Car supply chain is.

    https://facebook.com/groups/austera/

  • Russell Fauver

    Member
    March 28, 2022 at 12:38 pm

    It’s not looking good for reaching their goal of delivering the first production vehicle by the end of this year. I mean, the lone beta vehicle was operational at the end of December, it’s now the end of March and the only visible progress was them bolting on some taillights to drive it on the street. That’s not great progress for three months of work. Where are the rest of the beta vehicles that were to be used for testing other design features?

    • Jonah Jorgenson

      Member
      March 28, 2022 at 3:29 pm

      Difficult for us to assess development progress since we don’t have insight into their schedule, task list, resources applied, or supply chain parts validation. Hopefully, they are trying to limit the number of beta builds to conserve funding and the extra time to do the builds on top of the testing they want to do with the beta after it is built.

      The ideal is to have multiple testing scenarios for one Beta. Some of the testing will have to wait for Deltas and or Gammas.

      Until there is irrefutable evidence that they will not have a production Paradigm by the end of the year, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt.

    • Gary Greenway

      Member
      March 28, 2022 at 5:01 pm

      Recently Chris mentioned the next beta will be the solar mule. It will not need to be a full vehicle. It only needs those body panels that hold the cells and the panels adjacent to them to verify fitment. Windshield too to test solar transmittance. No running gear is needed but it will need to be position-able to test various sun angles. It may also have a full body to test the panel optimizers, wiring harness, and charge controllers.

      Jason mentioned an interior buck. This is likely to be a full body since the HVAC system should be tested with the full interior. The interior test requires the wiring harnesses to test the fitment of components and functionality. This buck will also accomplish the ergonomic verifications. A preliminary GUI, controller network, and I/O nodes will need to be installed to test body control functions. Audio functions can be tuned here.

      They will need an underfloor buck to test battery and adjacent component fitment and thermal operating characteristics. This can also be used to test the skin cooling radiator capacity.

      For basic electrical system integration of the driveline and battery system modules, a simple test stand will suffice. The thermal management system could also be included here to facilitate testing. This can also be tested in a rolling chassis but IR thermography is much easier in an open test stand.

      I also imagine a door test frame to cycle test door and window operation and fit.

      Elaphe needs a fairly complete car for winter testing to dial in ESP systems.

      • Llewellyn Evans

        Member
        April 1, 2022 at 7:23 pm

        Hi Gary, With respect to the solar test mule, they may want to check out how assembly holds up with body movement, twisting, bouncing, wind, road grime, hail, rain, dust etc to see how they degrade and observe real failure modes … also the conversion efficiency. There is nothing like real world testing to find the weakest point.

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