Aptera dimensions/specsPosted by jason-decker-decker on August 27, 2022 at 10:00 am
I ordered mine and, I was curious if anyone had the dimensions. I’m a disabled navy veteran and was wondering how tall the door opening is and how high the seats are so I can get an idea on how I get in it.
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- MemberAugust 27, 2022 at 10:34 am
Hey Jason, 1st thank you for your service. I don’t believe anyone would be able to give you definitive answers until they present the final product. Hoping once they do the full gama revile we will have a better idea of the numbers you would need.
- MemberAugust 28, 2022 at 9:46 pm
@Jason Decker Decker What we’ve learned from this video is that the best way to enter is to sit and then swing your appendages into the vehicle, reversing the process to exit. Trying to step in with one leg and then sit seems awkward – and trying to step out with one leg invariably leads to catching one’s foot on the door sill.
The door opening is quite tall – cutting a bit into the roof. No one seems to bump their head while entering or exiting. I think it’s safe to assume – again from the video – is that the seat height is comparable to that of a modern sports sedan.
- MemberAugust 29, 2022 at 11:43 am
I was just wondering how tall the bottom of the door is from the ground and how far is the seat from the ground? I’d like to do a comparison to my car so I in now how to get in it because my spine is fused.
- MemberAugust 29, 2022 at 11:51 am
For anyone under 6 foot it could make sense to raise the seats with a spacer. Remember they engineered to allow for a height of up to 6’8″. This would improve ease of entry and visibility for the majority of people and shouldn’t take much work.
- MemberAugust 30, 2022 at 12:19 am
@Jason Decker Decker And we keep telling you that NO ONE KNOWS: Aptera has not released the dimensions of the current prototype.
This is why we keep referring you to the video that shows a variety of people entering and exiting the vehicle – because that’s all the information any of us have at the moment.
- MemberJanuary 4, 2023 at 7:56 pm
When will information regarding interior dimensions become available? Apologies if it already is and I have missed it somewhere…
As a tall person this is so important to me, to the point where I am actively shopping for a vehicle replacement and intend to downgrade my current hybrid due to lack of headroom. This is personal but I drive a lot for work and I like the option to sit up straight in good posture. As a 6′-1″ man I need about 40″ headroom minimum to do that.
Are there any talks of future options including a larger body that has increased headroom? Would an extra few inches of height create much difference for aerodynamics performance?
For what it is worth, current hybrid options max out at about 40″ of headroom, so if this had 42″ that would make it an industry leader in interior comfort for tall riders. (yes I know this is not a hybrid, but you get what I’m saying)
- MemberJanuary 4, 2023 at 8:15 pm
I’m about 6’3″ and not worried in the least. Why? There are several videos of tall guys getting into Gamma, and the production vehicle is supposed to add even more headroom. (There’s one of the 6’5″ co-presenter of Fully Charged getting into it, but I couldn’t find it right away.)
- MemberJanuary 4, 2023 at 8:15 pm
@Maxim Stark We don’t yet know the actual dimensions but they’ve had people both 6’5″ and 6’8″ tall and both have had adequate clearance.
Changing the body shape would, indeed, affect the aerodynamics as well as the balance and handling of the vehicle. Its height is noted as 57 inches – which is about average for a sedan. Any taller and you’d be getting into “crossover” or “suv” territory…
- MemberJanuary 4, 2023 at 8:33 pm
I did see the clip just now of a 6′-8″ person sitting in Gamma, which is very promising. There’s a big difference between sitting with your back in the chair versus sitting straight up and not touching the back of the seat. Time will tell, optimistically looking forward to getting interior dimensions down the line 🙂
Thanks for the replies!
- MemberJanuary 5, 2023 at 1:48 am
Keep in mind that the co-CEO Chris Anthony is 6’5″ (I think), he’s never going to approve a design that was either unusable or visibly uncomfortable for himself, it’d be a PR own-goal if he did.
How tall are you anyway? If 6’7″ or higher, then body proportions might come into play. They’ve said that someone who is 6’7″ with shorter legs and longer torso might run into trouble, but someone with long legs and a relatively shorter torso would be OK at 6’7″.
- MemberJanuary 22, 2023 at 7:38 am
How much will the launch edition weigh?
- MemberJanuary 24, 2023 at 9:40 am
Does anyone know what the total width and height will be with the doors fully open? This is an important consideration if inside a single car garage and want to exit the vehicle. It appears that in the video the open doors exceed the width of the wheel shrouds.
- MemberJanuary 24, 2023 at 10:03 am
Based on pictures it looks like if the normal width is 2.23m then doors open is around 2.48m or 8foot 2inches.
Open door height seems to be 1.75m or 5foot 9inches
It’s rough since the photos for this is slightly isometric and not planar. But I would guess the height is probably around 5 foot 7.
- MemberJanuary 24, 2023 at 1:41 pm
Thanks for trying to figure this out. I don’t think it will be a problem if the numbers are correct. Yayyy!!!
- MemberMay 4, 2023 at 6:45 pm
I need to know if my garage ceiling is too low for this car to open the doors. What is the max design height the production model will NOT exceed? They should be indicating stuff or give an estimated range. I’ll have the suspension package too…
Before you say it, no sane person would leave it outside in an ice or snow storm. If you value the car you would also store it when extreme weather is likely. Also, the sun does not shine hardly in those situations. I may just keep it plugged and inside all winter because until I’m convinced of it’s abilities.
- ModeratorMay 5, 2023 at 4:13 am
Until Aptera provides a definitive answer, take the numbers provided in this thread as some educated guesses – with the doors open it will not be higher than the ceiling height of most garages, even if you get the off-road package.
- MemberMay 4, 2023 at 7:09 pm
Don’t take below as Gospel, but it should be close.
Based on pictures it looks like if the normal width is 2.23m then doors open is around 2.48m or 8foot 2inches.
- MemberAugust 7, 2023 at 10:00 am
> Based on pictures it looks like if the normal width is 2.23m then doors open is around 2.48m or 8foot 2inches.
That’s width, rather than height … ? (the context of the conversation seems to be garage roof height, but I think that quote from the 24th Jan is talking about width).
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- MemberMay 4, 2023 at 7:38 pm
This is a really good question. I guess the worst case is to avoid letting go of the door while in the garag
- MemberMay 4, 2023 at 8:36 pm
8ft high is the limit for many people… but add 0.5 inches drywall… many have a little above 7 feet when their garage door open! I bet many people don’t think about the garage door; although the garage door likely wouldn’t go in far enough to be an issue most the time.
Nobody wants to bang into either one. If that is an issue they need to think up some bumper… maybe a tipped rod that pokes out as it’s rotated up. or maybe the door seal just happens to save it in this situation…
Or I’ve got to dream up some rubber bumpers for the ceiling…and garage door…and get those into production…
The BIGGER issue are the parking ramps around the cities that are under 8ft. I often see 7.5ft.
- MemberAugust 7, 2023 at 10:46 am
I just took some measurements of my garage:
Floor > Ceiling is 9.9′ or 3.02 meters
Floor > Bottom of the Door Opener is 7.25′ or 2.21 meters
Floor > Bottom of Door Rail is 7.33′ or 2.23 meters (the open door is above the rail)
- ModeratorAugust 7, 2023 at 8:42 am
Chris mentions the 2200lb weight at the 7:00 mark in this video:
- MemberAugust 7, 2023 at 12:11 pm
Time for me to eat crow again. In this same video Chris say Aptera will build deltas not using ful production lines and equipment. Presumably to compress the production schedule. This is a deviation from the traditional definition of production intent delta. Since Aptera is an autocycle, not a car, they are not required to meet the “Car” standard definition to qualify for government safety testing. A god decision to get to delivery production sooner. Hopefully, foregoing the delta production standard definition won’t weaken the safety testing argument. I am diving up the crow now.
- MemberAugust 7, 2023 at 3:22 pm
I wonder if that may result in a delay between the Deltas and the actual production LEs rather than the delay that would have been for Delta production if they waited until the entire production line was installed. Hopefully the plan is for concurrent Delta production AND production line installation.
- MemberAugust 7, 2023 at 3:44 pm
Agree. That makes sense. Concurrent streams to compress the schedule assuming funds and other resources are available to do both effectively. A gamble. something else has to give to make that work. Hope it isn’t a quality sacrifice.
- MemberAugust 7, 2023 at 10:35 pm
That’s pretty interesting. I was hoping somebody would find this video so that I could see it. I was in the background of the first half of it. Hint: I was not wearing the red cowboy hat.
After I left, I thought of something I should have checked. When I went to view the Alpha version, the wheel covers were very flexible. Now that they have enclosed them a bit more, I meant to check that out again. Oh well, maybe I will be able to see it again. The Huntington Beach location would have been a lot closer to me, but the notice came too late for me to change my schedule. As it was, this San Luis Obispo location created a good incentive to take a small vacation up to Carmel.
I need to spend more time in the vehicle to properly critique it. When you first get in, you always sit up straight and proper. After a few hours, you slump and lean, so I was trying to think ahead at what would happen. At first entry, I found that there was a significant amount of headroom. I didn’t hit my head, but I did notice that I made myself very small to enter and exit. That part seemed a little tight. Something I need to check again is the angle of the roof as it comes down to the sides. It seemed to come down quickly to the side. If I leaned to the side, my head would hit the top. That still could have been me, but I would like to try it again.
The actual side mirrors that were with the rear view cameras really seemed laughable. I’m sure they covered the requirements to get the vehicle on the road, but they didn’t seem very usable. Also something that I would like to try again, they seemed to have a lot of distortion. I’m still going to give them the benefit of the doubt though. It is only the gamma model. They other thing about the rear view monitors on the steering column that I couldn’t check because they weren’t on was the fact that the sun could shine right on them if directly overhead. My rear view backup monitor on my Leaf can sometimes be difficult to view when that happens. Hopefully, they will put some sort of overhang to shade them. Otherwise, that could be a problem since that will be the primary viewing system to look back to the sides.
The steering wheel (or whatever you want to call it) felt a little awkward when holding the top corners, but the bottom felt normal. The column did tilt a little, but possibly not as much as the production model might. If I could have tilted it down just a little more, the rear view mirrors would have been easier to see. As it was, I found myself stretching to look over the column.
Another thing I would like to check again is the front windshield. I thought I saw some distortions looking through it. That could still be just me again, but it would be worth another check. To give them a little leeway, we have to keep in mind that this is still only a gamma version.
On the positive side, this version seemed much more finished. The body joints seemed much tighter, which is what they should be. That’s about all I can say since I didn’t get to ride in it. At least I got to sit in it. It just wasn’t long enough.
That’s my critique. I still like the vehicle, but there are still some little issues that are worth keeping track of. Right now, I don’t think they are issues that would keep me from buying it, but I would be interested in any comments that other people noticed about these things.
- MemberAugust 7, 2023 at 10:44 pm
@danny-mattijetz Remember that Gamma is a hand-built fiberglass mock-up so a lot of what you noticed can be put down to that. We actually have no idea what the Delta will be like other than that it will more-or-less resemble the Gamma: Aptera’s internal aluminum and steel chassis hasn’t been built, nor has an actual production battery pack to fit within that chassis. From recent renderings we know that they’ve needed to add a metal “roll cage” structure because the passenger compartment is no long a monocoque construction and, we must assume, no longer has the roll-over or crush strength offered by one-piece construction.
It’s pretty safe to assume that the Deltas will be hand-assembled entirely in Italy as that would be the most cost effective way to do things.
- MemberAugust 8, 2023 at 7:07 am
kerbe, if the Deltas are hand-built, whether in Italy or Carlsbad, then doesn’t that mean there will have to be an “Epsilon” version to “proof” the production line? CA & et al have been touting the Delta as the “production proving” version, though they did start saying it before the major body material change.
- MemberAugust 8, 2023 at 8:50 am
Good point! There will certainly be a difference between a hand built (In Italy or Carlsbad) and an assembly line vehicle assembled in Carlsbad that will be delivered to customers. For one thing, much more variation in hand built regardless of the location. I would not be pleased with testing and reporting of performance and specs from hand built vehicles as representative of delivery vehicles. Looks like for expediency, they are coming off their commitment to test against auto standards based on production processes on a production line. Of Course, since an auto cycle not a “Car” Technically OK. a lot of responsibility for those that invested 10K for early delivery now to “Beta test” first production line vehicles to work out defects from a untried production run. Good reason for standardizing LE as first production to remove some sources of variance. Maybe not so bad to be down the line with a larger reservation number when things are steady state and the kinks worked out. Interesting how Aptera “Recruited” beta testers by having g the pay in 10K for the privilege of working out defects in early vehicles.
- MemberAugust 8, 2023 at 8:25 am
Thanks for this review! Two things important about it. It is from a forum member so more representative of what “We” would experience. As more members see and review we will develop a picture of what an actual owner would experience. I especially like the fact that you did not conclude an observation with just one experience, but felt more experiences were needed to confirm a characteristic.
- MemberNovember 26, 2023 at 12:09 pm
Aptera has provided most of the specs for the vehicle. There is (to me) a missing spec: The width of the body. I know the overall width is 87.6″. However, to get a feel of how it will fit in my garage I’d like to know the width of the body itself. Maybe that is somewhere on their site and I simply haven’t found it.
- ModeratorNovember 26, 2023 at 12:35 pm
That is the widest dimension of the vehicle. If you mean the width with one wing door open… I don’t recall that extra allowance published, but once mentioned to be about ~eight to ten inches for that swing out. I never had a vehicle in my two bay garages where I had enough room to open both doors. Always had my passengers exit and I then parked and exited. I suppose a partially open door could work for some(?)🤷
- MemberNovember 26, 2023 at 12:42 pm
The Aptera body is more narrow than the width of the wheel pants.
The Aptera doors operate (open & close) within the width of the wheel pants.
Simply put, if you can drive the Aptera into any garage or parking space, the doors will operate normally so you can safely enter & exit the Aptera.
- MemberNovember 26, 2023 at 1:09 pm
Some may want to check the height of an opened garage door and the bottom of the opener from floor. Since the doors open upward, that may be a critical measurement.
- MemberNovember 26, 2023 at 2:34 pm
Looking at Air 2 video again…it actually appears that the width of the opened doors surpasses the wheel pants width by quite a bit.
- MemberNovember 26, 2023 at 1:56 pm
What is the width of the body?
That’s all I want to know.
- MemberNovember 26, 2023 at 2:42 pm
If your statement that you want to know if an Aptera will fit in your garage is true, then you need to know the following:
1. Length front to rear
2. Width at the vehicle’s WIDEST point.
Since the WIDEST POINT is from the OUTSIDES of the front wheels, THAT is what you need to use. Unless, of course, you are planning on removing the front wheels before parking in the garage? 😉
That said, looking at the renders, I’m guessing the body proper is about 12 to 18 inches NARROWER than the 88 inches for the wheels based on 195/50 tires and allowing for the wheel pants. However, once the first production intent vehicles are assembled, the exact measurements can be made.