MemberMarch 4, 2022 at 1:48 pm
I’d like to see them do a cross country road trip when they have a production intent vehicle.
The purpose of the trip would be two fold.
1) To allow potential customers to see and potentially test drive the vehicle.
2) To test the car on the most challenging roads in each region.
Would everyone please suggest locations in your region that you would like so see them take the car, for example in another thread someone was asking about the handling of the car on a bridge that’s subject to fairly high winds, that would be a good place to take it for a test drive.
I’ll start with New England. As a test drive location I’d suggest the Lincoln Gap in Warren Vt. The Lincoln gap is a 25% grade, I’ve been told that this is the steepest public road in the US. The road is paved up one side of the mountain and unpaved on the other (although it’s a good quality dirt road, it’s not rutted). When I took my Tesla over it the energy graph was pinned both on the way up and on the way down (the regen got a lot of energy). There are a lot of extremely sharp turns going up and down the mountain so it’s a great test of handling as well as the ability to climb steep roads. This is a beautiful location, it will make a great Youtube video.
For a meetup to allow people to see and drive the car I’d suggest the Pheasant Lane Mall in Nashua NH. The Mall sits on the Massachusetts border and has an Electrify America charger location. There is easy access to Route 3 which is a very good highway for test drives because it’s usually not crowded there. Another possibility would be the Electrify America in Marlboro MA. Marlboro is on Route 495 which isn’t terrible in terms of traffic. What ever you do don’t pick a location on Route 128 around Boston (known as 95 to outsiders). Route 128 is a parking lot during the week, it’s excellent for energy efficiency (my Tesla gets over 5 miles/KWh there) because the traffic moves at 20MPH if it’s moving at all.
MemberMarch 4, 2022 at 5:26 pm
There are plenty of roads/situations within hours of Aptera’s factory. We don’t want time/resources diverted from getting the vehicle to production. There’s plenty of time for something like that with a production vehicle.
MemberMarch 4, 2022 at 6:22 pm
Gabriel is absolutely correct! Every resource and piece of equipment possible should be assigned to tasks to move testing and production forward without any diversions to beat or beat the Aptera schedule.
Aptera Ambassadors have a sub group focused on planning for, creating, and attending events and scheduling the events at the right time to get the greatest impact. This group, in conjunction with marketing, engineering, finance, and production will designate those events to be supported by Aptera and allocate resources to do so. Of course, with limited vehicle sampes, people and money to support the events only a few out of the many suggestions received can be selected.
When these events are selected and scheduled, they will be announced publicly and all Aptera enthusiasts invited to attend
MemberMarch 4, 2022 at 7:07 pm
If they have a vehicle ready in time I would hope they can get it to a state with winter conditions to do practical testing this year.
Tesla’s mistakes (ie a mechanical flat that freezes easily and is needed for the heat pump to function) even recently have shown that to operate real world in cold climates we need more than lab tests. Many people which are very positive on tesla such as youtubers (including Zack and Jessy from Tesla Time News) have pointed out flaws in winter climate readiness. As a solar vehicle intended to be parked outside most of the time this is even more important for Aptera.
The sooner an issue can be identified the less costly it is to fix. As a software developer I know very well that every bug I catch though my own testing before it hits QA saves about 10x the cost. If it gets to a client it is consistently 100-1000x the cost. Especially if an issue isnt fixable in software it is always better to catch it early.
MemberMarch 5, 2022 at 4:07 am
A good example of “An oz. of prevention equals a pound of cure” wisdom.
Cold weather performance is one of the top concerns regarding the Aptera among potential customers who live in climates with winter conditions. We are fast running out of winter weather testing opportunities. We don’t want Aptera to be another Tesla
MemberMarch 5, 2022 at 8:11 am
Pretty sure they are gonna show off every vehicle like they already did, also let people drive them or drive with them. Its marketing and a few hours like that will not waste any timeline or plan.
MemberMarch 5, 2022 at 11:58 am
TThe whole idea of this roundtrip suggestion is and expression of our frustration with the delays caused by covid. We also had excessi time to think about it. So I don’t fault the thought.
Let me suggest that at this point in time, we need as a group to find a way to tell our story.
what if some independent aptera fan or group were to independently fund to configuration of an aptera spec into o fist person driver game like beaming dive.
what would be so cool would be if you coulld select the aptera options and just play.
I watched z few beaming videos with their quasi realistic crashes and think the physics engine of the game if applied to the strength characteristics of the aptera monocoque would prove enlightening to all. Players in the game.
I don’t know exactly how the game works although I suspect that a new innovative car design based on a real car like others, will show the inherent intelligence and logic of the first principals.
If like some other games … there may be others … there is a marketplace, maybe you could sell the data file? It would be cool if you got the game file with a reservation giving you a virtual test drive in the bargain.
MemberMarch 5, 2022 at 11:12 am
I’d like to suggest the road to the top of Pikes Peak. That would include hair pin turns, possible winds, and it can snow there in the Summer too. Bring lots of water and stay hydrated; Altitude sickness can be an issue at 14,115 feet above see level.
- This reply was modified 4 months ago by Gary Black Forest. Reason: more information
MemberMarch 5, 2022 at 11:33 pm
I like your thinking, Aptera can make headlines news by showing up to a famous local and breaking some kind of record. Another idea could be to take an offroad ready aptera and do the Baja 1000 on a single charge. Doesnt have to be quick just finnishing the race will draw alot of attention.
MemberMarch 5, 2022 at 11:56 pm
As awesome as that sounds on paper no way a 1000 mile Aptera can drive 1000 miles on baja 1000 offroad race conditions; also they haven’t physically built a 1000 mile pack yet.
MemberMarch 7, 2022 at 10:03 am
Don’t forget the Bridgestone World Solar Challenge coming up in October 2023. Envision a fleet of Apterae in support of the solar racers traveling from Darwin to Adelaide through the Outback of Australia. The King’s Highway stretches 1496 km (930 mi) from Darwin to Alice Springs and 1534 km (935 mi) from Alice Springs to Adelaide.
MemberMarch 8, 2022 at 12:25 pm
Great way to get extra media attention 👍. Hopefully they should have models in Australia by then. Wish is was closer to home for them so they could justify using their own people a bit easier than flying half way around the world.
MemberMarch 10, 2022 at 6:22 pm
That sounds like a good idea. It would be heaps of fun.
MemberMarch 8, 2022 at 11:44 am
Drove through here this weekend twice. Test driving the Aptera through here was on my mind both times. Windy road with lots of bumpy areas. Would be an excellent place to tryout suspension and handling. Hwy 55 running from southern to central Idaho.
MemberMarch 9, 2022 at 3:54 pm
I remember a road back in 1974 in the southeast corner of Washington State that I took on the way to Air Force Pilots Survival training in Spokane. It started at the Snake River at 1300 ft elevation and went up to 4000 ft elevation in ten miles. It had about a hundred switch back turns. I only drove it up. It was very memorable. Looking at the map I see it could have been Route 129. Its not Lincoln Gap near my high school home town, but I was impressed. If you are near Lincoln Gap, in Vermont, there is another paved road over the mountain on Route 17 just North of there called Appalachian Gap. According to the map, one spot is 28% grade. My daughter raced her bike up that mountain in a stage race. I climbed it in my recumbent trike. Mad River Glen ski area is just over the top on the East side of the mountain.
And who can talk about these minor thrillers without talking about Mount Washington in New Hampshire, the highest peak in North East US, and location of the world record strongest winds, 231 mph in 1934 (beat by 253mph on Barrow Island Australia (1996). 8 miles of climbing 5000 feet.
And of course Pikes Peak, already mentioned.
MemberMarch 10, 2022 at 7:27 am
“1) To allow potential customers to see and potentially test drive the vehicle.”
THIS is hugely important – I don’t want to have to fly to CA from FL just to see if I am able get into and out of the car, see out of the windows, not be tortured by the seat, etc. What an enormous waste of our time and money, in addition to unnecessary additional pollution from flying (in direct opposition to one of the major reasons that Aptera is the ultimate vehicle for many of us). Surely they can send an Aptera around the country for test drives by reservation holders, even if it is not a production vehicle. I will certainly drive a for half a day (or even a full day with an overnight stay) to see one if I can have an appointment. Half an hour would be plenty of time to figure out if we’re going to actually plop down a LOT of money for our dream car or if it just won’t work for our old knees and backs.
They can probably do 95% of their testing in CA, but for customers there is no substitute for being able to physically get in and out of the Aptera. PLEASE, PLEASE SEND ONE AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR US TO SEE!
MemberMarch 10, 2022 at 6:13 pm
I’d be more interested in it as a battery range/stress test. Different cars different test conditions. Windows up/down AC on Heat on, radio on full blast to see how much each affects range.