MemberJuly 10, 2022 at 1:20 pm
I’ve been using dash cams on all my cars for many years. My current ICE even has a rear facing one, independently connected from the recording fronts, via a 12v splitter connector sockets (wires neatly tucked underneath interior). Easily swappable (vs hard wiring) to other vehicles. I even bring it and use it on rentals on my yearly travels visiting family, flying in to MI. It has saved my neck countless of times in the past (accident witness for insurance purposes, theft deterrent, road rage driver deterrent). Quite indispensable to my daily driving. I always feel safer/have peace of mind while driving..knowing that you always have a “witness” with you, while driving.
I plan to install front ones on my Aptera (no rears, due to Full Solar). Crossing fingers, that a basic 12v socket connection would be available on the production units.
MemberJuly 11, 2022 at 3:58 pm
I would hope to have them as well. With the amount of cameras already planned for the car, the backup cameras, side, and rear cameras, it seems like a good candidate to use those to record them while driving or to have motion activated recording while parked.
MemberJuly 12, 2022 at 10:26 pm
As Aptera comes to fruition, I also see the development of an ApteraQ-like group of haters. I believe that Sentry mode may at least catch evil-doing keyers and scratchers as this speciffic design will attract unexpected attention from both the good, as well as the folks who hate things that are green and efficient.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by Fanfare 100.
MemberJuly 27, 2022 at 7:38 am
Video monitoring and collision warning would be great. I’m concerned that Apteras will be the target of malicious encounters and vandalism.
MemberJuly 27, 2022 at 7:52 am
Yep! but its more than that.
It should capture when that insurance fraud guy swervers over in front of you and slams the brakes. Or when you get pulled over for no reason. And there was the video of a neighbor Keying a Tesla, caught only due to video capture.
To me, this should be original piece of equipment.
At a minimum, the wiring should be there, so I don’t have to push and poke wires, power cords, installing software, etc. NO Stickum to attach it.
Patches/addons in general are more of a pain (which I am very likely to screw up the install) than original equipment. And it’s not like it’s something they have to throw in for free. We will be paying for the Option.
MemberOctober 3, 2022 at 1:23 am
I wish it would have some sort of securiy video recording. It already has some cameras for the rear view and side view mirrors. Have those double as security camera. Add a few more strategically placed cameras. Let’s face it, this car will be a people magnet. If you park it, people will be checking it out when it is unattended. Some of those people may have bad intentions because it is different and will do things out of spite.
MemberOctober 26, 2022 at 7:00 pm
The plethora of cameras built into the Aptera is a great advantage in many ways!
*Especially* if they also function the way common dashcams do, recording at least the forward and rearward views for X minutes, with options to download those stored videos.
However, I haven’t seen any info on such a feature.
If there is such info available, can you point me to it?
If not, then are options for recording / downloading being discussed?
MemberOctober 26, 2022 at 7:18 pm
Chris Anthony has mentioned that there will probably be a “Sentry Feature”/Dashcam feature, but it will not be on the earliest models. Hopefully it will be something that can be added with a software update/upgrade as most if not all of the needed cameras, will already be a basic part of the vehicle.
MemberOctober 27, 2022 at 1:32 pm
A built-in ability to record requires onboard memory chips solely for that purpose. Since it’s not simply a software matter, dashcam-type record features need to be designed in, not as a later upgrade.
And since *no* Aptera owner is going to want to jerry-rig some third-party dashcam wiring into their vehicle (and adding *yet another* totally redundant camera!), it really does need to be a standard feature.
Properly done, this should not be an expensive thing to do, and it would be totally in keeping with Aptera’s across-the-board intelligent design.
MemberOctober 27, 2022 at 1:53 pm
I have a similar post I want CAR CAMERAS The point is …..
Design for it now and not have Backers cramming stuff in !
Are the wires included in those wiring packages from (forgot the name of the company)?
If there is an additional screen, where will it go? I would think not a new screen, but accessed if needed from the large one, or an app.
Where will the cameras be? Let’s have some pre-designed aerodynamic spots. Do you prefer to have to cut holes in the body in order to put in a 3d party set of cameras.
That does NOT mean that it has to be included day 1, but, when it is available, it should be a minimal install.
As Mark said today “Properly done, this should not be an expensive thing to do, and it would
be totally in keeping with Aptera’s across-the-board intelligent
design.” Installing it in next year to a this year car, probably not so much! The biggest problem should be the software.
MemberOctober 27, 2022 at 2:03 pm
Daniel, as I understand it there are already at least four cameras in place:
– both left and right rear-view cameras (Aptera hopes to have these totally replacing drag-inducing rearview mirrors)
– backup camera that can be on fulltime (and *is* used fulltime when the back window is obscured by optional solar panels)
– I believe there’s also a standard forward camera? And I thought I heard Chris speaking about even a *fifth* camera somewhere?!?!
…so why would anyone want to crudely add still more cheesy third-party stick-on dash cameras (forward and rearward) to their beautiful Aptera?
MemberOctober 27, 2022 at 6:58 pm
I think we are mostly agreeing. Those mentioned existing cameras are for seeing curbs, back up, etc.
But look at I want CAR CAMERAS
I think that those of who are asking for more want this. DashCam Plus. Catch that Karen swiping her Key down the side of your new car, etc. And they will lie about it, until the video shows up.
MemberApril 1, 2023 at 10:01 am
Yes, I agree that we are agreeing!
Just to update my camera counting with better info:
I believe there are *three* cameras currently standard: forward, rear wide-angle and rear close.
Additionally, if Aptera gets clearance on replacing side mirrors with cameras, that would make a total of FIVE cameras onboard.
Would these provide the coverage you think you’d need for your ‘sentry’ feature?
MemberApril 1, 2023 at 10:18 am
Mark, the two side cameras will come standard with the Aptera and are in addition to the ones you mentioned. Their output will be displayed on the small monitors in front of the driver as “Video side mirrors”. The physical rearview mirrors are very small, the minimum size to be legal until the laws change (and they can be legally removed). Perhaps not useful as review mirrors for some.
MemberMarch 30, 2023 at 3:38 pm
I’m curious about what kind(s) of security the Aptera will have. Recently I’ve heard of Teslas being targeted and stolen. Apparently, with Tesla vehicles, it isn’t too difficult to disable the alarm without even getting into the vehicle. Takes the thieves roughly 5 minutes to snag a Tesla and it’s gone. I watch a YT channel where the host has had his Tesla stolen once and nearly a 2nd time, but he caught them in the act. I have a reservation on the Aptera. Even invested in the company. Looking forward to driving one. I worry about all the EV-targeted thefts going around. Most of all the Aptera has the front wheels the way they are. What sort of security is on those? Are those cables easily cut or removed by a thief? Would like to know that the Aptera has a good security system installed.
ModeratorMarch 30, 2023 at 9:05 pm
Theft of modern cars is far more difficult than it used to be. I truly doubt that Tesla or EVs generally have an increased risk. I can turn my Tesla Model Y off remotely, but I have never heard of anyone needing that feature. Window beak-ins are relatively common, but that’s true of most cars as well.
As for risk of front wheel theft, I’m not sure there is as much difference as it might appear. Simple wheel theft is the same or perhaps harder as on any car because the lug nuts are largely hidden. Stealing more than a wheel would involve vehicle disassembly and I’m not sure what the protection might be in that case. At least there is no catalytic converter to remove!
MemberMarch 31, 2023 at 1:41 am
While no system is perfect, I sure Apteras will at least be somewhat different and it should take time for the theves to crack it.
MemberMarch 31, 2023 at 5:44 am
MemberApril 1, 2023 at 6:39 pm
I would be willing to pay for the option to have a recording security camera system for all of those reasons mentioned – fake insurance accident scam, parking lot vandals, liars, accidents that need court proof, insurance claims… preferably factory installed.
MemberApril 1, 2023 at 8:52 pm
I am with you on that, as I believe most of us are. We would need a forward facing camera, which so far has not been addressed. It might be something they can feature with the driver assist system but we don’t know yet. To me personally just a good sentry mode (stand alone) would be worth at least a few hundred if not more.