The Reservation number thread

[Zachary Tyhurst]

My order number is in the 5000 range… not sure what that means.

Date: 11/21

Color: Noir

Interior: Vida

Location: Virginia

40 kw/h AWD

[John Voules]

Zach, I believe you received your number after APTERA reshuffled their numbers…I’m January 2021 and I’m around 6900. This is why with the numbers they are using now that I am for some reason expecting them to be using 40,000 numbering with higher reservation numbers.

[Richard Harris]

Dumb question, maybe. I just made my reservation today. How long until it shows up on your dashboard?

[Nathan Hubbard]

I asked a long time ago where everyone was getting these numbers from, but nobody responded.

Anyway, I put in a reservation last November, and the only place I see anything is on the “Review Orders” page. However that number is way too low based on what everyone else is seeing, so I looked over the code on the “My Account” page that shows the delivery date estimate, and that has a variable called “reservation number” which was about 25k higher.

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[Curtis Cibinel]

The order number is under my account -> view orders. This numbering started roughly suptember 2021. Anyone before that has a different set of numbers starting at 10,000. The order numbers in the current series include canceled reservations and purchases of Aptera swag so it doesn’t represent just vehicle reservations. Actual delivery order will be based on location, options etc with those near Aptera being first. Some options like safety pilot might not be available initially (awd definitely won’t be) so having these options selected could delay delivery.

[Len Nowak]

Congrats!

You may want to try asking via email at info@aptera.us if it doesn’t show soon

I am sure their system us busy!

[Richard Harris]

OK. Finally found my order. Number 45506. Latest I saw on an Aptera video was 27,000 preorders. Looks like it’s really taking off.

[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

Don’t try and use that number as a gauge of total reservations or how many people are ahead of you. The numbers being issued now are not usable for that according to Aptera itself. Use your date of order and the announced totals from Aptera. There is a confirmed Aptera release of a total of 30,000 plus as of August 30th and a fairly reliable estimate of 32,000 plus as of 9/11/22. We can expect an increase in the rate for awhile due to the show and the associated videos and publicity. It won’t really take off until the general public starts to see it, not just EV and Car types.

[Len Nowak]

Maybe we should ask attendance at the current Detroit Auto Show if any one Brand got the attention that Aptera did at the Fully Charged LIVE ( share some photos/videos). Aptera was “ Charged”!

I am sometimes not comfortable around that many people… Not this time!

I enjoyed a few talks too… in the very open convention hall

[Peter Dezendorf]

I would like to see a counter showing the number of reservations. With the rate of reservations increase, I doubt daily would be needed. Maybe weekly?

[Arturo Meza]

#16944 1/17/2021 Sol White/Custom 400 mi FWD VIDA Full Solar w/Safety Pilot fm San Jose, CA

#19584 3/9/21 Sol White/Custom 250 mi FWD VIDA Full Solar w/Safety Pilot fm San Jose, CA

[Raul Arias Salgado]

#43932

Luna silver

400 miles

All solar panels

FWD

400 miles

Autonomy level 2

Camping kit

[Chris Rosario]

42120 2022-08-28 Luna Silver Pre-order, 41KWH, FWD, No other options

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[BigSky Country]

My order number is 895 and I’m confused on what this means as well. I saw a thread that orders started at 10000, so I don’t get it.

I ordered a Noir, 60 Kwh, Vida interior out of Boston with FWD and full solar. I’m toying with the idea of switching to AWD, but that kind of acceleration for a hyperefficient vehicle doesn’t totally make sense to me. I’d like to know what the efficiency tradeoff is before making that decision.

[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

BigSky, I’ll guess that you ordered in August of 2021 in that case. (The issued reservation numbers are kind of a hot mess and according to Aptera, they don’t actually represent your place in the queue.) Order numbers reset in early August 2021 and started from zero, they also do not appear to be continuously sequential from that point, so you need to work from your date of order mostly.

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[BigSky Country]

Thanks for that background. Good to know I’m not crazy and, yes, I did order in August of 2021. At this stage, I settled in and will patiently wait for my time. I am curious to know how many orders there were prior to August 2021 though.

[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

I’m mired in a backlog of Aptera info, I’ll try to remember to let you know when I find my notes, Off the cuff, I’d say about 14-15 thousand.

[BigSky Country]

Thanks. No need as I just did a little more homework ready through and piecing it together. I’m thinking it is ~12-14 thousand.

[V Pilot]

Mine is 4015 in Nov ’21 I think I was around 13,000 number

[Curtis Cibinel]

I’m 2100ish from Oct 2, 2021. I thought I was around 14,000 which would make you 16,000. Not all will convert and location is a factor.

My options:

400, custom colour (ideally cosmic ppf from flexishield), Awd, vida, solar hood, safety pilot

When referrals go through: all the other options except camping and lots of tees

[V Pilot]

Wasn’t the Dec. ’21 update “over 15,000 orders”? Thought for sure if there was a higher, even thousand, number they would have gone with that. Any way, what’s a couple of thousand orders when I’m on the Northeast coast…400, luna, 2wd, full solar, maybe off road

[Dennis Swaney]

My order number from March 2022 is 12172 so it is impossible for there to have been 15,000 3 months earlier (unless there were 3,000+ cancellations in those 3 months).

[V Pilot]

That is the number from autoevolution.com article dated Jan 20, 2022 “Aptera revealed in its December 2021 update that it had surpassed 15,000 reservations for its electric trike.” It’s there, item number 18 out of 21 of the year’s highlights.

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[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

Dennis, only the earliest reservation numbers are actually close to their actual position in the queue, and also are a fair representation of the total reservations. Any numbers issued after early August of 2021 really have no true basis to gauge either of those items. (Aptera reset and changed the way numbers were issued at that time.)

[Curtis Cibinel]

Approximate Formula for “place in line” (not accounting for options / location):

• If Pre Aug 2021: Order Number – 10000
• If Post Aug 2021: (Order Number x 0.66) + 12000

[Dennis Swaney]

From what I’ve understood the “reset was to just lop off 10,000 and then continue on from the highest number after that.

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[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

“From what I’ve understood was the “reset was to just lop off 10,000 and then continue on from the highest number after that.” No not at all. It was a replacement of the entire website, which included the ordering system. Anyone who tells you you can add this or subtract that to get the total, or you actual position is just plain wrong. (These same folks were quoting 45K + reservations a while ago but seem strangely quiet now.) The numbers (Which I watch) are not consistent. You just have to go by your date of reservation and announced totals from Aptera, at least until Aptera decides to issue better guidance.

[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

Just to make it a bit more surrealistic, there is very likely another person out their with an order number 12172, issued in Dec 2020 or Jan 2021.

[Dennis Swaney]

Which would now be number 2172!

[Peter Dezendorf]

No one interested?

[Gaylene Bechard]

That would be awesome 🤩

[Riley …]

It would be cool to see a live count that also shows percentages of all options selected. I want to see how many people have the exact same vehicle setup as me.

[Wayne Forkum]

#17171

01/23/2021

AWD, Sol white, 600mi. range, solar hood, Vida interior, Enhanced Audio, Safety Pilot

Knoxville, TN

[Curtis Cibinel]

Thought I’d reshare this from earlier in this thread – thanks Jeanne V. Attempting to track the samples / announcements.

Here’s the link: https://tinyurl.com/mupz372v

[Dennis Swaney]

Thank you, Curtis.

[Thomas French]

8986 2022-02-14 Noir Black Pre-order Central Florida

AWD

Driver assistance package

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[John Voules]

Just ordered my 3rd APTERA

SEPTEMBER 21,2022 ….9:45am pacific

46954

[Dennis Swaney]

John, I can see it now: you go to pick up your first Aptera, and they say: “Because you are a good supporting customer, we’re going to give you all of the Apteras you pre-ordered in one delivery.”

[John Voules]

Dennis…I’m kicking myself for not ordering the 3rd one earlier…WHAT WAS I THINKING!

[Paula Egan]

#8824 (so is that 18825 then?)

Feb 11, 2022

White Sol

400 mile range

Full solar

Arizona

[Curtis Cibinel]

So order 8824 from Feb 2022 means: (8834 * 0.66) + 12000 so you should be around 17830. With that high of a number location/options probably doesn’t make a difference (apart from maybe those needing RHD)

Unofficial Formula which seems to fit the data:

• If Pre Aug 2021: Order Number – 10000
• If Post Aug 2021: (Order Number x 0.66) + 12000

[Paula Egan]

Thanks, I have always wondered. Do you think having ordered a 400 mile range changes my placement at all?

[Curtis Cibinel]

Unlikely. They will probably have all battery options shipping long before your order would be up. If you had ordered in Feb 2021 then absolutely it would make a difference.

You can always change your configuration in a year if it seems like they are plowing through orders and the battery sizes have not started to ship but at this point it does lilttle than give them an idea of the ratio of what people want.

[Paula Egan]

Thank you again for the info.

[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

Curtis, I like the idea of a formula, unfortunately the order numbers now being given out are not advancing at an even pace with the reservations. I concur with the approximate position for Paula’s order. (I figured in the low to mid 18,000’s by dead reckoning.) it seems to be close for the first few months. But if you plug in the later numbers in Jeanne’s chart it’s getting much further off, for whatever reasons. (May include merch and changes, and Aptera may be reserving some amounts for themselves, fleet sales etc.)

[Richard Moore]

order #42108 x.66 + 12000= 39791. Add that to the 600 mile variant I figure delivery sometime in mid/late 2024. hopefully🤞

[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

See my reply to Curtis above. Your reservation date would be on or around 8/28/22 based on another similar number above, shortly after that date (8/30 IIRC) Aptera officially announced 30,000+ reservations, so you can probably consider that your ballpark.

As Curtis says (And I have said he same thing.) After the first 5 or 6 thousand are in production, range and most items shouldn’t factor into it. Orders placed by mid February 2021 numbered 8,000+ so even with discrepancies, cancellations and foreign orders that should probably account for enough.

Also order of introduction for production was clarified and verified by Aptera. It is still 400-250-600-1,000.

[Brian McCoy]

Just placed my order! #47102, 09/22/22, Color Choice on Car and Interior, All wheel drive (live in Parkersburg, WV), 600 mi range, solar on all panels. And I just purchased 100 shares of the company. Can’t wait for their IPO! I used to drive a 2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV – the very first highway legal all electric car in the US.

[Kearn M]

34332 ordered 7.21.2022 with 400 range battery, Noir black with all solar panels, AWD and every option.

[Kearn M]

Does anyone know if you edit/modify your order, will your order number be changed therefore making you move down the line or do you keep your position and order number

[Scott]

Kearn, the reservation number stays the same even if you adjust your options.

[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

Order modifications seem to sometimes issue a new order number. Aptera bases your place in the queue on the original order date. (Which is why, at this point, your order date is what is important, not the order number, the number doesn’t indicate your position or the total number of orders taken.) Aptera has the information needed to determine your place. (Hopefully someday they may share it with us again.)

[Kearn M]

Thanks guys!

[Scott]

Well, you got two different answers. 🙂 Speaking from my personal experience of having adjusted my order several times, my reservation number never changed. Perhaps it has changed for others.

[OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)]

No problem there Scott, I’ve never changed mine. I do monitor and keep track of a lot of posts here and elsewhere. We do know that early on there were a lot of verified instances of it happening. I’ve also seen several people reporting recently with reservations made in the last few months that it happened to them. It doesn’t appear to cancel the original number, just issue a change order number in addition I agree it doesn’t seem to happen all the time, and by the number of reports I see, it’s probably not often. The main thing is I totally agree with your original statement, in the sense that your place in line doesn’t change, even if they give you a separate order number for a change.

[Scott]

Good info, OZ. Thanks. I am just speaking from the n=1 experience of my own reservation number. Sounds like you have a wider data set to pull from.

[Dennis Swaney]

No change in my order # after I modified it today, nor did it change when I switched from Luna to Sol awhile back.

[Tom Brewer]

42,xxx ordered 8/31/22

[Azhar Ahmed]

Looks like this thread shows up in this video on Youtube and there’s a survey linked that shows some updated pie charts on orders by battery pack, distance, and order date: https://youtu.be/4croy_pvHx4