Tires and Wheel Size?

Aptera Community Aptera Discussions Tires and Wheel Size?

Aptera Community Aptera Discussions Tires and Wheel Size?

  • Tires and Wheel Size?

     Guy SKEER updated 6 months, 2 weeks ago 14 Members · 21 Posts
  • DON RASKY

    Member
    November 23, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    Does anyone know what size tires/wheels the Aptera uses or will use when released? I didn’t see the wheel or tire size listed on the vehicle specification document. Also, what is the spare tire or flat repair strategy, full size spare, can o’ stuff?

  • BRUCE MENGLER

    Member
    November 23, 2021 at 5:32 pm

    ” The rims are “standard” – Aptera currently rolls on 195/45 R16 rubber.”

    above is from URL below

    https://aptera.us/community/discussion/winter/

    Winter

    • DON RASKY

      Member
      November 23, 2021 at 5:36 pm

      <<<THANKS>>>

      • Peter Jorgensen

        Member
        November 24, 2021 at 7:20 am

        Wheels just bolt onto hub motors – Standard size. Shared with Fiat 500 Abarth.

    • DON RASKY

      Member
      November 24, 2021 at 6:02 pm

      NICE WHEELS. Pretty great look too without the wheel covers. Wonder what you’d lose in range not having the wheel covers. It very rarely rains in my ZipCodes.

      • kerbe2705

        Member
        November 24, 2021 at 10:41 pm

        Not very much until speeds over 45 mph – then you’d take an efficiency hit from the lost of aerodynamics. You’d also risk throwing sand and stones against the body and windows of the vehicle.

    • Doug Happ

      Member
      December 13, 2021 at 9:58 am

      And all three wheels will be the same size?

  • Don Daniels

    Member
    November 26, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    Most states do not allow “Open Wheel” vehicles on public roads. For me, it might be a “Get Home” option if the wheel pants fill up with Ice and Snow in the winter and start rubbing the tires. That is one thing I want to test.

    • Curtis Cibinel

      Member
      November 26, 2021 at 4:06 pm

      I watched a review of the model 3 in Toronto. The issue is that without engine heat like ICE cars the snow builds up in the wheel well. Aptera shouldn’t have as big of an issue with this because the 5% waste heat from the motors will be directly at the wheels so it will act as heater to prevent buildup.

  • Bob Kirchner

    Member
    November 26, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    To answer your final question, can o’ stuff seems to be where they’re headed (although I think the technical term is “goo”).

    • Paul Kirchner

      Member
      November 26, 2021 at 6:07 pm

      A better approach for them, in my opinion, would be one of those tire repair kits and a small battery powered tire inflator. The tire repair kits I’ve been using for years and are easy peasy. Side wall puncture is another thing. I have in an emergency repaired a side wall puncture but only had to drive a few miles home.

      It would certainly tie in with their right to repair, rather than fill the tire with goo.

  • Philip Raymond

    Member
    November 26, 2021 at 8:31 pm

    In regards to what Don said about open wheels, that would not apply to the Aptera as its 3 wheels make it an autocycle with motorcycle laws applied to it. There are plenty of open wheeled motorcycles on the road, so it should be viewed as legal. That said, driving without the wheel pants would only be a good idea in deep snow at speeds under 45 mph. Still, it would not be my first choice to do that, I would keep the pants on in most deep snow. I would only do it in the most dire of deep snow driving. For example, over 2 feet of snow, the street I live on has not yet been plowed and I need to drive to a hospital.

    • Don Daniels

      Member
      December 13, 2021 at 10:54 am

      Two comments here.

      1. You might be right on it not being the same as an open wheel car, though I think the CanAm and others have a more open fender. If you’ve watched open wheel car racing, you know what happens when 2 cars touch wheels. Perhaps if we find iced up wheel pants to be a problem, Aptera could come up with a more open Winter Fender. We will see as we get our first winter driving experience.

      2. I don’t know if it could be designed to offer us the option of shuttling battery heat or resistance heaters in the wheel wells to keep the walls warm enough to prevent ice buildup, with of course a range penalty but used only when needed. Kind of like the heated leading edge deice on my jet. We only turn it on when needed because of the performance penalty.

  • Vernon Michael Gardner

    Member
    December 12, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    The wheel covers are separate from the fenders in the pictures. That should take care of most average clearance issues. I am going for the all wheel drive so I could have better snow or rough road control. PS. Airless tires are nearly road ready and we will most likely see them before the Aptera.

  • Guy SKEER

    Member
    December 15, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    So, I went Looking at Tires. Had Another Realization Strike My One Neuron: THREE Tires is Cheaper than Four! Looking at Performance Tires, Load Ranges, Shaving Tread, etc.

    ANOTHER EFFICIENCY AND OP COST Savings!

    Wondering about Wheel Covers for More/Better Aero. Brake Cooling Issues might not enter into considerations, as REGEN Braking!!!

    Shaving Tread will lighten the WEEHickle, getting back some of the Efficiencies lost by Pouring My Lard Ass In. Imperious leader of the Apterites said “Every 30 Pounds extra Loses 1% performance”

    Since I drive so little, Tread Wear is Probably Not going to be the Limit on Service Life – Ozone and Potholes will Probably be the Culprits. Vehicle weight is so Low, that tires will have Tremendous Load Reserve to ward off injury from Road hazards.

    Everywhere I take Interest, the APTERA Garners My Admiration as a Professional Engineer (Retired).

    • Oz (It’s Oz, just Oz)

      Member
      December 15, 2021 at 9:25 pm

      Guy, didya ever notice though, most tire stores have sales during the year? And the offer buy three tires and get the fourth tire free is a common offer? I unfortunately doubt if we would get a buy two and get the third free.

      • Riley ________________________________

        Member
        December 16, 2021 at 3:58 am

        Buy another rim to mount fourth tire and us it when rotating tires, or keep it as a full size spare in the back if off-roading. I miss the old days when all cars had a full size tire in the trunk

        • Oz (It’s Oz, just Oz)

          Member
          December 16, 2021 at 7:20 am

          Riley, I like your thinking, and I miss a full size spare as well. (Or worse yet, on my wife’s van, that came with run flats, which when the time came were replaced with standard ones, as the run flats had been both underwhelming and short lived, they figured they would save money by not equipping it with the traditional mount for a spare.)

      • Guy SKEER

        Member
        December 16, 2021 at 7:55 am

        I’ll bet they will offer an equivalent Discount for the Third Tire, in order to make the sale. This is just a marketing Ploy – Cost of Production of each Tire remains the same. They just Mess with the Prices to Fool those who think they can make Purchases “With the Money they “SAVE””! LOL

        The vehicle has only Three wheels, where do they think We will put the Fourth?

        I like Vendors to Deal “Straight Up” and will Happily go elsewhere for “Per Tire” Prices.

        I am Happy with a Can of “Fix A Flat” instead of a Spare Tire and Wheel. How many Flats Have You had in the Last Ten Years? Usetabee, Back when Bias-Ply was the Only game in town, and Tire Chemistry wasn’t too much advanced beyond the recent discovery of “Vulcanizing” that Ya could have Multiple Flats a Year, and “Touring Cars” had Two Spare Tires and Wheels Mounted on the Trunk, or on the Running Boards. Honestly, But For She Who Must Be Obeyed Tagging a Curb, We haven’t had a Flat, not even a Slow Leak, Since about 1980 or so.

        Remember the bit from Aptera’s Leader, stating that every 30 Pounds added reduces peformance by 1%? My Fat Butt adds enough! I wanna keep every Percentage of Performance I can.

        Besides, The Chosen Tire size is available everywhere, or very nearly. If a Tire on My Aptera has a Failure that Fix A Flat can’t allow Me to get back on the Road, I’ll Just Have the TowTruck Bring a New Tire, or Take My Ride to Where Tires are sold.

        • Peter Jorgensen

          Member
          December 16, 2021 at 8:33 am

          I’ve had two – both from nails, one while offroading and one just driving around town. Both times I used my full sized spare.

        • Guy SKEER

          Member
          December 17, 2021 at 1:28 am

          I posted link over at “Industry News” tab: Pirelli (World F1 Champions!) and Michelin are the Tires I expect to be best for our APTERAs. The Pirelli article is revealing.

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