Transmission/Driveshaft Tunnel

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  • Transmission/Driveshaft Tunnel

     kerbe2705 updated 2 weeks, 5 days ago 14 Members · 18 Posts
  • Russell Fauver

    Member
    April 5, 2022 at 9:50 am

    Is the center tunnel necessary? There is no driveshaft or transmission running to the rear wheels so why is there a tunnel? Seems like a carry-over from last century. I like the flat floor of the new Ioniq 5 and it’s ability to slide the center console back out of the way.

    Looking at the beta I see some bolts on the side of the tunnel near the accelerator so maybe it’s a structural member of the vehicle? If so then can we at least cut down on the size to make it flat with the floor of the hatch? It would be nice to use that space for hauling long objects without having to rest them on top of the tunnel.

    Although, it is just fiberglass and I own a dremmel tool so…

    • This discussion was modified 2 months, 4 weeks ago by  Russell Fauver. Reason: Clarity
  • Len Nowak Nowak

    Moderator
    April 5, 2022 at 9:58 am

    I think, if you look as you build your battery choice on you order… the batteries start from the front uo through the center area …

    • Curtis Cibinel

      Member
      April 5, 2022 at 10:29 am

      I would expect the batteries to be mounted more toward the middle of the available space. They would want to keep the center of gravity around the same place because otherwise the suspension tuning differences get even more complex. It is already non-trivial because the 1000 mile adds 750lb or more over the base model.
      At one point they talked about the extra space being accessible for cargo but I suspect that likely won’t happen to simplify things and because it would be an clunky space to make use of anyway.

  • Markus Schmid

    Member
    April 5, 2022 at 11:57 am

    What resmbles a driveshaft tunnel of course is there to hold the cupholders!

    Just kidding.

    Maybe it fulfills a structural function (stiffening), so dremelling if off might be a bad decision.

  • IA -1

    Member
    April 5, 2022 at 2:16 pm

    It doesn’t look like a tunnel, but more like a storage area. I find the design good, since I can rest my right hand over the storage area, which I often do. I hope there will be something similar at the doors. The cup holders are located between the storage area and the dashboard, it looks like the design/rendering is not completed yet, there might be a cover over the cup holders.

    • James Pace

      Member
      April 5, 2022 at 3:12 pm

      I for one would like a removable center console, so long items can lay flat from the back hatch to the front dash. 8′ 2x6s come to mind. If the passenger seat folded flat, even better. If there is a structural reason to keep the center pillar in place, oh well. But as long as the flat back storage can continue, I think a removable padded center box would honor the form over function Aptera vibe.

      I miss the flat front door of my long gone Saab 96. It’s surprising how having more room around your feet can make the whole car seem roomy.

      • Curtis Cibinel

        Member
        April 5, 2022 at 6:33 pm

        I’m pretty sure the battery pack makes use of the space. The current visualization seems to put a vertical stack of batteries into the space your referring to; this doesn’t seem like something they would include in the graphic for no reason. They have visualized the packs in various ways but given the relatively small space and unusual shape of the vehicle I think the pack will make use of any area they can for the 1000 mile. They mentioned the idea of making the excess space behind the battery available as an in a webinar but with nothing official for about a year I wouldn’t count on it.

        • Russell Fauver

          Member
          April 6, 2022 at 7:05 am

          Just went back and looked, yes the current graphic shows a vertical battery design. That’s new. Also took a closer look at the render from the interior design video and it shows a separation point on the uppermost portion of the center console. Maybe that top part will be removable to make it level with the rear deck. I might not need my Dremel tool after all 🙂

          • Oz (It’s Oz, just Oz)

            Member
            April 6, 2022 at 8:10 am

            Russell, I would take any “illustration” with a large salt lick. As the cooling channels one showed lines throughout the full body (Including the doors.), while we now no that they are only in the belly pan. The battery one is not likely fully accurate at all, if you consider that when it shows the difference between a 600 and a 1,000, it adds a single smaller module about 1/2 the size of the others, when, realistically it would need to be twice the size to add 400kWhs.

            • kerbe2705

              Member
              April 6, 2022 at 8:19 am

              @Oz (It’s Oz, just Oz) PREACH! 🙂

            • Russell Fauver

              Member
              April 6, 2022 at 9:22 am

              True.

              Reminds me of a line from an old TV show… patience grasshopper

            • Ray Holan

              Moderator
              June 14, 2022 at 5:13 pm

              Russell, when you can walk across the rice paper without leaving a trace, you are ready to leave the temple (or is it, ready to leave in your Aptera?) — Kung Fu TV series

  • Pistonboy Delux

    Member
    April 5, 2022 at 4:07 pm

    I thought the tunnel creates structural regidity between the rear wheel and the front two wheels.

    The VW beetle has a similar tunnel running on its floor. While it does have some cables and tubes within, it is much larger than it needs to be if this were its only purpose. Essentially, it serves as the vehicle frame, giving the vehicle much more strength and rigidity.

  • Vernon Michael Gardner

    Member
    April 6, 2022 at 5:05 pm

    It’s a short structural area that the batteries go in

    • Kimberly Wilson

      Member
      June 14, 2022 at 4:36 pm

      Russel, or anyone else, can you please provide a link to the graphic that illustrates the vertical mounting of batter packs? Thanks

      • Jonah Jorgenson

        Member
        June 14, 2022 at 5:47 pm

        Check the battery selection pane in the configuration tool (For making a reservation)

    • Kevin Bradbury

      Member
      June 14, 2022 at 7:43 pm

      Most any Alpha drive videos that Chris has accompanied in, Chris states that the battery pack is under your butt. The “Battery Update” video in the News page illustrates a flat battery pack covering the majority of the floor space in the cabin and not at all the same as the illustration of the battery packs on the Configuration page. The tunnel probably is for structural rigidity and cable management.

      • kerbe2705

        Member
        June 14, 2022 at 8:23 pm

        @Kevin Bradbury You are correct: At one point the Ambassadors were told that the center channel is for structural purposes.

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