Value-less Competition in Euro Market

Aptera Community Solar EV Industry News Value-less Competition in Euro Market

Aptera Community Solar EV Industry News Value-less Competition in Euro Market

  • Value-less Competition in Euro Market

  • John Malcom

    Member
    September 14, 2021 at 10:03 am

    15K equivalent for this??? If you are willing to buy one of these, I have a bridge in NY I can sell you cheap. Not sure I buy the claim of “Massively upgraded”

    I guess OK for a Euro market (Compressed distances, a lot of city driving and parking difficulties, lower speed limits – except for the autobahn in Germany). I don’t think much competition for a Euro Aptera.

    56 MPH top speed, max batter 143 mi; 5 sec from 0 to 31 mph; 59, 109, and 143 mile battery options.

    Maybe good for a college student to commute around a large campus.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2021/09/14/microlino-micro-mobility-mini-electric-car/

  • Peter Van Achter

    Member
    September 14, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    There are many more electric car models on the market in Europe than in the US. I count more than 60 models today here in Belgium, but the Aptera is obviously unique and a lot more interesting than what te “competition” offers. I suppose that an Aptera wil cost approximately 40 % more here than in the US (transport, import tax , i presume IVA costs , sales tax ) but it remains without doubt my first choice even with those extra costs its a great car from a value perspective.

    • Titus Meusel

      Member
      September 20, 2021 at 7:55 am

      40% that’s steep. I looked at other solar cars like the Sion (Sono Motors) wich promises a max. solar range of 16 – 35 km a day and the Xbus (Electric Brands) wich they say could reach additional 200 solar km a day – a number I do not believe. The Xbus has a modular concept, wheel hub motors and reminds you on the VW T2-bus. It will be build close to my place but I remain doubtful on both projects. The Aptera has the most extreme approach in engineering and function and does not neglect design.

    • Robert Klasson

      Member
      September 20, 2021 at 11:40 am

      I’m estimating the my Aptera will cost about 46% more than the sales price in the US here in Sweden (shipping cost, import tax and VAT). I guess you need to pay the shipping cost and VAT in the US too, but I doubt it will add 46% to the cost of the car. It’s basically the same for all non-EU cars though. The cheepest Tesla model 3 LR available at the moment is almost 71 k USD here in Sweden.

      • Joshua Rosen

        Member
        September 20, 2021 at 1:02 pm

        We don’t have a VAT in the US. There is a sales tax which is state dependent but even in the worst cases it’s much less than the VAT is in Europe. In my state, MA, the sales tax is 6.25%, next door in New Hampshire there is no sales tax.

  • Ron Ledohowski

    Member
    September 19, 2021 at 11:53 pm
  • Gabriel Kemeny

    Moderator
    October 6, 2022 at 1:12 pm

    The Microlino made it to production – interesting numbers on production.

    The TINY Cheap Electric Car You Actually Want! – YouTube

  • John Voules

    Member
    October 6, 2022 at 2:36 pm

    John Malcom, I have been following Microlino for several years now. You are correct, it is not a direct competitor with APTERA. I do not consider APTERA a true city car though, it is more of a sporty vehicle that is a bit of a jack of all trades. Microlino is a true city car. If I owned both I would definitely use the Microlino to go to or travel within the city. You can’t take advantage of the APTERA driving in the city, you are paying for high tech aerodynamics with witch you truly can’t take advantage of until you start hitting highway speeds. Before I went with electric propulsion I owned as many as 4 smart cars at one time. Parking was a breeze, I would find parking spots almost always near my destination,I spent less time and money looking for a spot…to call it a college town commuter is truly misleading. Typically Americans love large vehicles…that mindset has to change. Cute well handing minimalistic vehicles are more functional in cities. Having extra space to maneuver allowed me to zip through traffic while others are parked weighting for the next behemoth in front of them to move.

    I will be a happy camper when my APTERA is in my hands, but if the Microlino is available in the US, I would definitely buy…I do miss my smart cars.

  • Roger Kroetz

    Member
    October 7, 2022 at 5:19 pm

    Makes me think of the Isetta of the 50s. Slightly restyled and electrified.

    • Jonah Jorgenson

      Member
      October 7, 2022 at 5:26 pm

      Agreed! just go to show there is nothing new under the sun.

    • John Voules

      Member
      October 7, 2022 at 5:30 pm

      The actual intent was to capture the spirit of the Isetta. I notice though they didn’t attach the steering wheel to the door as the original. That car is the cutest thing on wheels. I’m waiting now for someone to come up with a modern version of the Messerschmitt


      • This reply was modified 2 months ago by  John Voules.
      • OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)

        Member
        October 7, 2022 at 7:00 pm

        John, never wait, always search, there are a couple out there, but I think this is the best one.

        http://www.messerschmitt-werke.de/

        • John Voules

          Member
          October 7, 2022 at 8:00 pm

          Big bucks for Messerschmitts now. Either way, I’m trying to go all electric. From my yard equipment, my motorcycle, vehicles to the top of my roof (solar). No more changing oil or spark plugs for me.

        • OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)

          Member
          October 8, 2022 at 5:50 am

          I think that is a great goal, I’m working my way towards that too, but a bit slower than I would like. All of my yard stuff is electric, unfortunately my yard guys are still gas (Fills my yard with fumes.) but I believe in CA here they have to change over to electric in the next year or so. If the Aptera stock does well, I might consider the electric version of the Schmitt even with the range penalty.

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