What is your Aptera replacing?

Aptera Community Aptera Discussions What is your Aptera replacing?

Aptera Community Aptera Discussions What is your Aptera replacing?

  • What is your Aptera replacing?

  • Ryan Stice

    Member
    August 14, 2021 at 6:34 pm

    My not so exciting 2010 Prius with 210K miles on it which has been a great daily commuter car. My 17yo daughter is buying it from me. Hoping for 2022 Aptera delivery, as my daily driver shifts to 2010 Wrangler (largely garaged/minimal driving) as a bridge.

  • Fanfare 100

    Member
    August 14, 2021 at 9:36 pm

    I will be replacing a 2014 Mistubishi Mirage which is still in pretty good shape. Here’s a recent pic. The best gas mileage I’ve gotten is 64 miles per gallon from Canada to Delaware on one tank of gas. It’s not even an hybrid. That’s because it’s got an extremely efficient engine and a 0.25 drag coefficient.

  • George Hughes

    Member
    August 15, 2021 at 10:57 pm

    The Aptera will replace my ‘rare’ successor to the EV1 – the 2014 Chevrolet Spark EV, of which fewer than 1,700 were sold. My Spark EV is a very early car registered in Michigan in February ’13 and carrying a VIN number ending in …00065 and, with the 2014’s being the lowest production year, I’m wondering if it might be a collectable.

    While it suffered from its 82-mile range, the remarkable thing about the Spark EV is it took a truly mediocre Spark ICE-powered car with 82hp and improved it so much that it was the fastest, most fun entry into that sad group known as compliance cars. With the boost to 140 HP, 400lb of torque and its battery located under the rear seat, a suspension beefed up for the extra weight, it is just a better car than the under-powered gas-powered Spark. It appeal is summed up with the 0-60 stat: EV 7.3 seconds; ICE 11.0 seconds.

    But without DCFC, it is an anchor with a long lead. The parking brake setup is no fun and you get inordinate amount of torque-steer coming out of a driveway onto a state highway it is far from perfect.

    One of the reasons folks are generally comfortable buying a Chevy or Ford is they pretty much know things like power windows and locks, airbags, a heater, AC and radio are all likely to work or be easy to fix. My Spark has been reliable and the only maintenance other than tires, was a fluid top-off of the battery cooling system covered under warranty.

    My hope is the Aptera does the mundane stuff as good as this ‘compliance car’ because I surely like its specs on range, speed and utility.


  • Troy Carter

    Member
    August 16, 2021 at 9:15 am

    It will be replacing my 2005 VW Beetle TDI. I’m literally trying to keep the car together until my Aptera arrives. Hopefully I have a proper job by then, so I can pay for this thing. ha

    • George Hughes

      Member
      August 18, 2021 at 5:43 pm

      There are a lot of gig-work scenarios where the Aptera would work and boost your earnings.

      While I’m retired, I do a gig with a real-estate photo company that pays a piddling amount for a set of ‘today’ pictures. That piddling amount includes travel which as a 1099 worker means I can shelter at least $.55-mile from taxes.

      I wouldn’t do the gig if I had an ICE vehicle because at least half-that ($.25*40,000 = $10,000) would go to fuel, oil-changes, tires and assorted repairs. But with my SparkEV and its low maintenance (I’ve put on 40000 miles doing this job and bought six <$50 tires) and, including power and tires, this EV setup puts my out-of-pocket costs running the car comes in at pennies per mile and somewhere south of $950.00 meaning it’s efficiency has paid for the car. (I bought it for $9000 cash in early 2018 for it with 10,250 miles on the clock.)

      Oh, an idea for a bumper sticker – It would work for the Aptera too – CHEAP ENTERTAINMENT.

      The point is there are a ton of gig-job offers that screw their employees by outsourcing the cost of transportation to independent contractors who drive ICE vehicles (I’ve seen people in F-250s and Big SUV’s carting around pizza????) … But if you have an efficient EV like the Aptera that moves you about at a cost of a fraction of a cent (if that) it adds at least 10-cents if not 15-20 cents to your paycheck every mile you drive. And that is on top of what they think they’re paying you:)

    • Ray Holan

      Moderator
      October 20, 2021 at 5:39 am

      Hi, Troy. I was a card carrying member of the TDI club. I had a Passat TDI and 2 Golf TDI’s at different times. Reliable and efficient cars. I even converted one to run on waste vegetable oil; the trick that makes your car smell like french fries as you go by. Hoping the Aptera will be efficient and reliable also.

      • OZ (It’s OZ, Just OZ)

        Member
        October 20, 2021 at 6:05 am

        Put 190,000 miles on my 2003 Golf 4 TDI, sold it in 2016, loved it, except for a mysterious tendency for it to occasionally pop into limp mode. No one could ever figure it out, I advised the buyer about it, hopefully he solved it.

  • Steven G. Bueche

    Member
    August 19, 2021 at 3:36 pm

    2 Jeeps. 2006 Commander and a 96 Cherokee. Sold the Commander today so that’s one down. The 96 has a buyer just waiting for my Aperta to arrive. Commander got replaced with a Model 3 the 96 gets replaced with the awl inspiring car of the future that will turn the Ev/Car world on it’s Butt!

  • Andrew Ball

    Member
    August 19, 2021 at 5:03 pm

    My Mini Cooper and my K1600GTL BMW I figure the Aptera will work well as a daily driver in all but the most extreme conditions and still be fun for those road trips. (Especially if they take the speed limit off the OS 😉

  • Danny Mattijetz

    Member
    August 19, 2021 at 8:49 pm

    I will be replacing my 2011 Nissan Leaf. It already had one set of batteries changed, and I’m hoping to get my Aptera before I need to change the batteries again. It will also be nice to have enough range to occasionally go for a drive without trying to figure out if I can get there and back.

  • MITSUYA ENDO

    Member
    August 21, 2021 at 3:26 pm

    I want you to replace the “hybrid car belief” that prevails in Japan and the “excessive expectations for all-solid-state batteries and hydrogen-fueled cars” led by Toyota!

    When the Prius debuted, this certainly revolutionized the car. However, despite repeated improvements, this is the idea and technology of more than 20 years ago.

    In Japan, even TESLA is still not well known, and very few people know APTERA. If you spread the goodness of APTERA to the Japanese market in some way, I think that more Japanese people will change the rigid way of thinking in Japan and jump over TESLA and become aware of the appeal of APTERA.

  • Norman Roberts

    Moderator
    August 21, 2021 at 4:32 pm

    Sold my 2018 Model X 3 months ago to make space for my Aptera. thought we could manage with 1 vehicle, did not work out the best. So I purchased 2017 Chevy Bolt to fill in until my Aptera arrives. I hope it arrives before my Bolt catches fire !!!

  • Lord Chad Dunham

    Member
    August 21, 2021 at 7:38 pm

    To start with, my Aptera will replace my 2004 Chevy Impala. I may sell that off soon as many dealerships are begging for vehicles. Depending on how I can stuff work tools and ladders into the car, it may also replace a 2011 GMC Sierra. I would probably end up with the Aptera before my number comes up for the CyberTruck.

    • Lord Chad Dunham

      Member
      December 24, 2021 at 3:48 pm

      Well I am down to one vehicle. My Impala had a tire blow out that fubarred the driver front 1/4 panel. I just gave it up to cars for vets. I figured a donation for a tax write off would get me the most money.

  • Carl Knapp Knapp

    Member
    August 21, 2021 at 11:53 pm

    I plan to keep my Tiger Wood crash-tested GV80 and use the Aptera for fun and to tow behind my Sprinter motorhome.????

  • Lee Janes

    Member
    October 15, 2021 at 10:36 am

    2002 Mercedes Benz C class.

  • Ray Holan

    Moderator
    October 15, 2021 at 12:23 pm

    Will be replacing my 2019 Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid.

    • Hans Roes

      Member
      October 16, 2021 at 7:54 am

      I currently got the 2019 Electric. Love that car and how efficient it is. And it’s the efficiency that draws me to the Aptera.

      • Ray Holan

        Moderator
        October 20, 2021 at 7:36 am

        Hi, Hans fellow Hyundai owner. I wanted to get the pure EV version of the Ioniq but they didn’t sell them or lease them in Ohio at the time. Glad you’re having a good experience with yours.

    • Russell Fauver

      Member
      October 23, 2021 at 6:07 am

      I spoke with a guy in England who owned one of those, he said he was getting 75mpg around his neighborhood and 100mpg on the motorway! Do you get numbers close to his or was he just messing with the gullible American?

  • Jacob Keel

    Member
    October 15, 2021 at 7:25 pm

    2012 Chevy Equinox

  • Curtis Cibinel

    Member
    October 19, 2021 at 9:34 pm

    04 Pontiac (actually Toyota) vibe. Yep 20 year old car. Refuses to die; could stretch another 7 years but looking forward to my ev awesome sexy sports car.

  • Russell Fauver

    Member
    October 20, 2021 at 7:58 pm

    Probably replace my 1999 Solectria Force. The Force is my faithful daily driver and with a power consumption of 190 watt hours per mile it is hard to beat. The power hungry EVs that have come out this century haven’t impressed me. Glad these guys started working on the Aptera again!

    • Ray Holan

      Moderator
      October 21, 2021 at 7:04 am

      Russell, I was excited to hear you have a Solectria Force. I was lusting after one back in the day. It was truly cutting edge at the time. How have you managed to keep yours going all this time without factory or dealer support?

      • Russell Fauver

        Member
        October 21, 2021 at 7:21 pm

        Thanks for asking about The Force! For support there were a good number of owners in a yahoo group (back when yahoo did such things) who were happy to help out fellow owners. Now I’m just winging it. Mine has been surprisingly trouble free through the years. Still has all the original electronics except for the battery charger which got replaced when I pulled the factory NiCads and installed LFP cells 9 years ago. And the 12 volt power converter failed a while back, I found one on eBay for $125. But the rest of the electronics and drive train are intact. The car does not use a 12 volt lead acid battery to supply the 12 volt systems like the more modern EVs do, it simply uses a voltage converter. I’m glad too because the lead acid battery being used in “modern” EVs seems to be a common point of failure across all the brands. I hope Aptera follows Solectria’s lead on that idea and skips the 12 volt battery.

  • Jesse Spears

    Member
    October 21, 2021 at 10:03 am

    It will be directly replacing my 2018 Nissan Leaf, which was my daily commuter pre-pandemic (I only leave the house once or twice a week these days).

    But it will also be taking over road trip duties when it’s just my wife and I (currently we drive her 2014 Prius, which we’ll likely be replacing with a 2022 Prius).

    • Len Nowak

      Moderator
      October 21, 2021 at 10:36 am

      I love reading the replies in this Forum’s Community thread…

      As Jay Leno said, in his most recent Leno’s Garage video with Chris and Steve , as he stood beside and touched the Aptera Sol .. Something like …“ This Aptera says something about the owners “

      I had a ride in the Sol and it brought me back to the “feel” of getting in and and out of my old Honda Civic Si… a memorable car, with the most miles I ever had on a new car.

      Sure no winged doors, but “sized right “ and a seat that hugged the driver/ front passenger. It was “peppy” , not that I need that! It had a warm sporty acceleration sound too that people comment on saying “ I knew that wasn’t a standard Civic” . The new sound for EVs these days may be their mild exterior whine , while offering a quiet passenger experience?!

  • John Tyler

    Member
    October 21, 2021 at 12:49 pm

    I am selling a 2018 KIA Soul I bought for basic transportation. I have not need for a car until my Aptera is delivered so I am getting rid of this. I drive a diesel guzzling semi 10-12,000 miles per month. It would be great to make this money doing anything else.

  • Byron Dieckman

    Member
    October 21, 2021 at 1:10 pm

    1936 Ford roadster, a fun car but…

    • Ray Holan

      Moderator
      October 21, 2021 at 1:48 pm

      Coyote 5.0 or small block Chevy?

    • Byron Dieckman

      Member
      October 22, 2021 at 4:46 pm

      Small block chevy

  • Mark Shields

    Member
    October 22, 2021 at 4:22 pm

    It’s not replacing anything.

    I have a 2018 Ford Focus RS: six speed manual, AWD, plenty of grunt, with a tow hitch installed, and seats 5.

    The Aptera will take over for most driving, especially commuting; the RS will be the weekend fun car.

    • John Tyler

      Member
      October 23, 2021 at 12:07 pm

      ????

  • Elzo Stubbe

    Member
    October 23, 2021 at 12:42 pm

    I would be replacing a one already most sustainable vehicle. The Stromer ST2 YES!!

    And yes the Aptera would become the commuter in the flat Netherlands for a 40 mile daily trip and

    the ST@ would become the fun weekend vehicle…

  • Joel Smith

    Member
    October 23, 2021 at 1:03 pm

    I drive a 2015 Leaf for about 95% of my current driving needs. That’s almost entirely my work commute and compatible errands. I have a few old, reliable ICE vehicles for the remainder plus the rest of the family’s driving needs. They too use the Leaf if is available.

    I am looking forward to the Aptera for the commute. It will let me go a lot further, though with fewer passengers, so that will change up when I want to use an alternate.

    My son wants the Leaf for his much shorter commute, so I expect it to continue to give good service to the family. 125k miles on the Leaf so far and the battery is still in excellent health so looking forward to years more service from it. Still open to replacing its battery when that might seem needful.

    So not so much “replacing” as pushing the other options on hand, a step further back in the queue.

  • Brandon Campos

    Member
    October 26, 2021 at 2:43 pm

    My modded 2019 VW Jetta. It gets 46 mpg when put on eco mode. It also has Open pilot installed for level 2 autonomy drives which I hope aptera’s will be as good or has the capacity to be able to install in. I love my car but fuel and maintenance costs at this day in age are too much. I Will miss the custom exhaust.

    • John Malcom

      Member
      October 26, 2021 at 8:33 pm

      II feel for you. I had a VW Golf when younger. Really loved it. Finally had to get rid of it. VW is discontinuing the Golf. ????

  • Michael Turner

    Member
    November 3, 2021 at 4:40 pm

    The Aptera would be replacing my 92 Honda Civic CX (Aerocivic) that I aeromodded to reduce the cd to 0.16.

    • Curtis Cibinel

      Member
      November 3, 2021 at 10:13 pm

      Mind posting a pic- I’m curious. I used to drive a 92 VX and no idea how you could get it down that low. Thats less than any production vehicle currently made (beaten by Aptera but 0.16 is still extreme)

      • Michael Turner

        Member
        November 6, 2021 at 11:40 am

        Google “Aerocivic”, there are plenty of pictures of it online.

    • Derek Sharman

      Member
      January 19, 2022 at 9:23 pm

      I KNEW Basjoos would want an Aptera! I did not know he already knew it existed and was planning on getting one and I was on a forum with him! You, sir, are a celebrity. I’ve reread your website more times than I care to count, and I daydream about how far in over my head I’d be applying the Aerocivic treatment to a salvage Chevy Bolt to cover my 300-mile courier route.

    • Arthur Downey

      Member
      April 2, 2022 at 10:49 pm

      I had a 92 Civic CX. I loved that car. It got 40-42 MPG typically. What kind of mileage did you get with the Aerocivic mod?

  • Richard McKnight

    Member
    November 4, 2021 at 1:26 am

    I have to lol at the number of people replacing an existing EV/hybrid.

    I’m going to be replacing the worst gas guzzler of them all… a 2000 Corvette that gets 24mpg on a good day.

    Ironically, this little 3 wheeler will have a better 0 to 60 time.

    • Peter Jorgensen

      Member
      November 4, 2021 at 11:38 am

      Why? I couldn’t wait for Aptera so I leased a Kia Niro EV… So technically it’s replacing an EV. I don’t see the problem. I like EVs and don’t like gas anymore.

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