What Options Would You Want?

Aptera Community Aptera Discussions What Options Would You Want?

Aptera Community Aptera Discussions What Options Would You Want?

  • What Options Would You Want?

  • Curtis Cibinel

    Member
    September 14, 2022 at 7:03 pm

    I consider this a essential feature due to the width and will add a generic one from Amazon if needed. Hopefully safetypilot cameras can be repurposed. Definitely unlikely to make the initial batch of vehicles.

  • Michael Thwaite

    Member
    September 16, 2022 at 12:30 pm

    Endless control of systems – Expert mode.

    I’d love to be able to tweak some of the values buried in the firmware, one that really sticks out is the reported speed of the car. Most cars over-read dramatically and after changing tires on my Tesla I’m now 2mph out on the highway – was 0.7mph previously which was OK. So, tweaking the wheel rpm compensation would be great.

    I’d also love to to be able to adjust accelerator pedal power ramp; my SmartED over compensates; a gentle push has the power build up faster than needed requiring you to often back up whereas my old Tesla Roadster under compensates requiring a gradual increase in pedal to maintain a steady acceleration.

    Anything else tweak-able would be great, don’t need a great UI, just a spreadsheet with [Save] / [Cancel] / [Oh no put it back to factory!] would be perfect.

  • Chris Rosario

    Member
    September 16, 2022 at 4:56 pm

    Living in Central Florida, cooled seats are my only wishlist feature right now. Will swap the ProContact tires for slightly narrower Ecopia tires, that are also slightly taller. After delivery.

  • Rupert Jung

    Member
    September 17, 2022 at 6:06 am

    A second charging port on the front (having to park-in backwards sucks) and especially wireless charging (or a charge-dock) would be great. I hate fiddeling around with cables.

    • Michael Marsden

      Member
      September 22, 2022 at 7:00 am

      “A second charging port on the front (having to park-in backwards sucks)”

      If they do two ports, make one Tesla and the other CCS. That way you can charge anywhere.

      (Although I very much doubt that they would, due to weight).

  • Curtis Cibinel

    Member
    September 17, 2022 at 10:26 am

    Since it is now fairly clear the vehicle will be wrapped I would want the most durable, longest lasting wrap possible. Cosmetic PPF (paint protection film) provides the color, is slightly thicker and lasts far longer than vinyl wrap (also more expensive). The material is more expensive but I would definitely be willing to pay extra to ensure the vehicle doesn’t need a rewrap in 5 years.

    • John Wiley

      Member
      September 17, 2022 at 10:59 am

      To try to stay close to their current pricing schedule, maybe make it an optional upgrade. I personally would prefer paying a little more for a more durable and longer lasting finish.

  • George Hughes

    Member
    September 17, 2022 at 4:02 pm

    I noted in the discussion about the Aptera wiring harness that the vehicle offers a unique scheme that controls operations, not at the central computer, but by distributing info over something akin to a local area network. I.e. a specific module processes the signal at its location rather than having to have a specific pair of wires run to allow centralized switching and control.

    What i’d like is the ability to add remote switches and controls in the form of an add-on module that say, could be pasted on the door and through wifi or some other signaling protocol, allow me to have a window switch for the drivers door only. I could then paste this little switch – it may require a small button battery – on the top of the yoke, on the door or on the console. In fact, because this thing is just a rocker switch, it could even be moved to any of the locations (or if you bought four such ‘drivers door window switches, you could even paste one in the back when camping.)

    Presumably, anything you can operate on the control screen, you could fabricate an appropriate ‘analog’ feeling physical control that would simply communicate with the Aptera much like a phone app … except instead of a phone (which may already be an option) it is a small device designed specifically for its purpose. That means the control for windows would differ from the one that pops the back window.

    With this kind of option, say a man who is missing their right arm, would still be able to roll down the window without twisting in his seat simply by adding a dedicated up=down window switch on the door panel while driving.

    On a similar vein, in my compliance car I’ve often wanted to be able to dial-in a maximum kw draw that would top out the kw’s drawn during cruise control driving. What it amounts to is a watt limiter that sets a maximum draw (say 30kw) when, to maintain the cruise control speed or engage the resume cruise feature when natural processes might call for 60-70kw or even more draw to regain the set speed.

    Oh, and I already started a long time ago (old forum as well) a request for a ‘Parade app” that would require the ability to disable the rear wheel motor (mine is a AWD) and enable tank turns.

  • Richard Carter

    Member
    September 21, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    I would love the middle section to be up-gradable to have ISOFIX mounts so that a Child Seat could be added in the middle-back. Also, adding in a cage between the back and sides could help with protection during accidents.

    • John Voules

      Member
      September 22, 2022 at 10:47 am

      Hey Richard…absolutely would like another seat child or adult.

      Roll cage not needed though, the whole vehicle is a roll cage. The structure is measured as 8 times stronger than steel and the shape of it will give us the security of a roll cage. This maybe the most solid vehicle available to the public due to its thickness and rigidity.

      • Dan Kerpe

        Member
        September 22, 2022 at 2:46 pm

        I would take that “8X stronger” bit with a grain of salt. I deal with every variation imaginable of composites on race boats all the time. They can easily by 8X stronger when the loads are as designed. They’re also quite brittle when it comes to impact in the wrong direction. The reason this matters is that something like a side impact should easily do enough local damage to compromise the structural integrity of a monocoque body (what Aptera uses). So now imagine that side impact leads to a roll over. The “roll cage” of the vehicle is now severely compromised going into the roll. It’s the equivalent of cutting a couple tubes of a roll cage on a Jeep before rolling it. I’m not being a naysayer, just trying to be a realist. I’m still okay with it, just trying to make sure that people understand the difference between the strength of a compromised versus uncompromised monocoque structure.

        • Harry Parker

          Moderator
          September 22, 2022 at 3:03 pm

          Yes, and a fuller quote is “8 times stronger for the weight”. Aptera’s body is not 8 times stronger. It is perhaps 3 times stonger and 8/3rds times lighter. (I just made those numbers up as an example.) However, they have refined the body’s materials, structural details, and crumple zone behavior based on extensive mechanical computer crash simulations (finite element analysis).

          Aptera is very unlikely to roll over like large trucks, vans and SUVs because its center of weight is so low and its stance is so wide. It will slide and rock rather than roll when hit.

          We all are looking forward to the results of the crash tests scheduled for early next year as soon as the some of the first production Aptera are assembled, just to be destroyed.

      • Michael Marsden

        Member
        September 22, 2022 at 2:59 pm

        “The structure is measured as 8 times stronger than steel”

        I thought that they said it was the composite that was x times stronger than steel, which is something different. That will be by weight not volume, and the composite is lighter. Also, steel is uniformly strong, whereas composite tends to be strongest for particular directions.

        The bottom line is how will it perform in crash tests. I’m sure it’ll be OK, but I also think that it is somewhat misleading when they are comparing strengths of different materials like this without being specific. Also, in engineering terms, strength and toughness are very different things. Something can be strong but also brittle, for example.

        • Dan Kerpe

          Member
          September 22, 2022 at 3:13 pm

          That was the whole reason for my post. In no way am I saying it’ll be dangerous, it’s just not the miracle some people are mistaking it for regarding safety. It has its flaws just like everything else.

  • Mark Delmont

    Member
    September 23, 2022 at 6:35 pm

    I’m not sure what you would call it, but I would like an external sound system that would alert people that I’m there when driving in a parking lot. Maybe a couple of options on the sound and the option to turn it off. If you are moving slowly, the sound would be slow, and as you speed up it would get faster and faster. At some speed, it would turn off – maybe 15 miles an hour. I have a Fiat500e, and people are always walking in its path. I could have a million points if I were playing Death Race 2000.

    • Riley …

      Member
      September 23, 2022 at 10:01 pm

      There is a law that requires all new EVs have this low speed sound. Not sure if the law translates to 3 wheeled vehicles but I would be surprised if aptera doesn’t come with an exterior speaker. As for the sound it will be selected by aptera and will be permanently set to that one sound. Tesla used to allow the selection of the sound and it caused confusion so it was removed. Based on what other automakers are doing I think aptera will have a sound that changes pitch as you accelerate.

  • john Bussjaeger

    Member
    September 23, 2022 at 10:34 pm

    OVMS – support. Actually, I think they should just build in support for it and let the open source project do all the work for Aptera. This allows phone remote control (andriod and iphone) and tracking of the car which already works for Tesla and Nissan and other cars.

    https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3

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