- MemberJune 8, 2022 at 12:38 pm
Will there be an Aux port in the sound system? I figure it will have Bluetooth but I have legacy equipment that doesn’t have BT and requires use of an 1/8″ audio cable. On a related note, will there be a 12vdc power port as my legacy equipment uses between 6 & 12 vdc so a 5v USB port won’t do.
- MemberJune 8, 2022 at 1:12 pm
I just need build in spotify or android auto and im set. On that note, please make sure android auto works wireless….
- MemberJune 8, 2022 at 2:22 pm
You know, as I understand it, since Google is discontinuing Android Auto, and switching to “Driving Mode” I kind of doubt many companies will support it in their vehicles in the future, or am I missing something here.
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- MemberJune 8, 2022 at 4:11 pm
Google Assistant Driving Mode will work with an Android Auto compatible head unit. What will be going away is the previous ability to use Android Auto directly on your cell phone. So, no more using a phone mount to have Android Auto on a car without a compatible head unit. GADM in preliminary depictions looks very similar to the Android Auto experience. As is typical of Google, they make confusing product development changes that don’t provide clarity.
- MemberJune 8, 2022 at 5:07 pm
That helps Paul, Thanks. I haven’t been using pretty much anything, but will need to familiarize myself with something soon, and whatever it is, it will be Android based.
- MemberJune 8, 2022 at 8:59 pm
@Oz (It’s Oz, just Oz) GADM is already active on all Android phones running Android 9 through 12. My car has Android Auto (and Apple CarPlay) so I’ve never used it on just the phone – but there’s no discernable difference using it on the car’s screen.
This page seems to disagree with @Paul Schultz’s comment, above: https://support.google.com/assistant/answer/10217503?hl=en
At one point Founder Chris said that Aptera would not have AA or ACP but, more recently, he seemed to suggest that it might.
- MemberJune 9, 2022 at 1:28 am
I do remember him saying it would not have AA which is an issue for me. I have not heard him say AA will be supported but that would make me very happy! I hope it is also wireless AA! I do have a preorder with the better sound package and I really hope AA is included as over the air radio stations around here are next to worthless.
- MemberJuly 8, 2022 at 9:07 pm
Hello Aptera, I was curious if there is any new information on what the Enhanced audio Option will get us pre-order holders. I assume integrated audio in the center screen but what kind of amplification would we get and how many speakers. Gotta jam out while cruising you know. 👍😃👍
- MemberJuly 8, 2022 at 10:31 pm
@Bill Embry The only detail that I can ever recall being mentioned was that the Enhanced option would include transmission-line speakers would be built into the body. There’s never been any mention of the “standard” audio option.
I’m guessing that this will be a “wait and hear” situation, once the design of the vehicle has been finalized.
- MemberAugust 13, 2022 at 5:54 am
I’m curious about the details on the audio too. Hopefully it’s a component system.
- MemberAugust 13, 2022 at 6:05 am
I agree with @Bill Embry . I would like to know more details in general and am curious about the audio system and how it will affect the range. 🎵
- MemberAugust 13, 2022 at 7:32 am
My understanding was that one of the early investors, has a business doing audio, and he was supposed to be designing the enhanced system. Extra speakers, all around to balance out the range. Not sure, but some good tunes will be happening, can you hear the Beach Boys, Thinking of Good Vibrations?
- MemberAugust 13, 2022 at 11:04 am
I recall the same, an investor.
Nice tunes is a must, at any cost!
- MemberAugust 13, 2022 at 1:34 pm
The early Investor is Patrick Quilter, I believe. https://www.quilterlabs.com/
There has been very little info on the Audio system that I could find.
This is description direct from the options page ” An extra three channels of audio brings great sound depth along with an added lightweight transmission-line subwoofer for accurate and deeper bass response.”
As far as I know this would be the first factory audio system two include a transmission line sub enclosure. Which should make it the most accurate factory sub in existence. I’m really looking forward to it.
It will likely take up some significant space. I’m assuming they’ll sneak it behind the seats under the trunk liner. I could see it not being compatible with the 1000 mi battery.
The last tidbit I remember hearing sometime ago, is that they were working on designing some extremely lightweight drivers. That had me a little concerned. I’m hoping they don’t compromise audio performance for an extra 0.5% of range.
Steve Fambro is the audiophile. So I have faith, that audio quality will be a priority. Hopefully someone can prod him for the latest info.
- MemberAugust 13, 2022 at 1:39 pm
Steve with that quality is a definite plus!
Thanks for sharing!!
- MemberSeptember 15, 2022 at 6:47 am
That’s it – The company name I was looking for QuilterLabs. They make some nice audio equipment for sure. The enhanced Audio ought to be pretty nice. I would love to hear from Aptera what their thoughts on the Enhanced Audio are at this point in the game.
- MemberSeptember 15, 2022 at 3:38 pm
I would like to know the specs of the “standard audio” such as # of speakers, CD capable, and my ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE: an AUX jack. If the standard audio doesn’t have an AUX jack (or audio RCA jacks) then will they be part of the “Enhanced” package?
Of course if there won’t be any audio input jacks (AUX or RCA), then I’ll either have to go aftermarket or modify the audio system by soldering some in.
- MemberAugust 14, 2022 at 6:52 pm
If we do not purchase the enhanced audio system, I assume we get the standard default audio system. But what is that? Silence? No audio system? The sound of the front two motors humming in two part harmony as we go around corners?
- MemberSeptember 21, 2022 at 11:56 am
I have to put in my 2 cents here. I do consider myself to be an Audiophile. It started with the car I had in HS. A Quadrophonic 8-Track Tape Player. A friend of mine wrote a song about us in HS in which he mentioned it. Then, in the US Army, after a lot of reading and learning about commercial sound equipment. I bought a $3,000 (in 1975 dollars) 125W per Channel Quadrophonic System. I studied Sound Equipment a lot in those days leading up to its purchase. Now, I use the computer I built with 5.1 Surround Sound Logitech G906 speaker System. Each speaker is around 2 feet from my head with the Sub behind me on the floor. So, yes I too want a GREAT Sound System!
I have the Sound Package Upgrade on my pre-order. For me, USB Ports, and a 12V Cigarette Lighter Socket are musts. Both of which can handle numerous connections. The USB port can drive 127 connections and the 12V can expand, but I am not sure how many (In HS I had a 4 port) 12V expander. Probably a current limit in there (I am an Electrical Engineer too).
I-Pods are no longer in production I believe. But, I do have an iPod I’d like to continue using. So, it needs to have an Apple Lightning Connector, or an Adapter for whatever connection there is to 5V power and the Audio Channels of the Sound System. Now, all that could be in the Central UI Interface. If I can upload my library into it somehow.
I am sure many people would also want a CD Player. Ripping thousands of CDs onto it to upload my library would be a real PITA. I have them stored on a 6 ft. long dowel rod contraption I built. If the Apple iTunes software could be uploaded via the Central UI over the air, then the iPod could handle that. Problem Solved.
Will the Central UI be a Laptop or Laptop-Like? Can we upload other software onto it? What Ports will it have? How large is the Storage Capacity? My library is over 40GB on a 64GB iPod. My PC has 44.1TB of storage. 20TB are USB external backup drives. I sure would like to have access to the UI as I have on my PC. There are 78GB of stuff on my dedicated Music Drive (Some of the space is taken up by a lot of Album Cover Images).
Inquiring Minds Want to Know
The image shows my PC with a stereo AudioEngine 2.1 Speaker System before I bought the Logitech G906 system
- MemberNovember 22, 2022 at 1:40 am
iPods and CDs? Wow I am shocked anyone is still using CDs. I haven’t touched a CD in probably almost 10 years. My current car Hyundai Sonata Limited has every option and has no CD. Do any current cars still have CDs players in them?
- MemberNovember 19, 2022 at 6:07 am
Hey guys, does anyone know anything about what the MM system will be like?
Meaning will it have Android Auto / Apple Carplay or ( me hoping ) just a simple phone mirroring option so you can use your phone as the source for navigation and other things. This way they don’t have to waste time and effort creating a new system since we already have everything in our pocket.
Also how do you connect and charge? Wireless or cable? Already mentioned this on the Drive the Lightning YT channel that a few USB ports and even one near the mirror to be able to attach a dashcam in case it doesn’t have a camera system like Tesla. Haven’t seen one mention about those in any video iirc.
- MemberNovember 19, 2022 at 7:32 am
Nobody knows other than it is described thusly:
An extra three channels of audio brings great sound depth along with an added lightweight transmission-line subwoofer for accurate and deeper bass response.
- MemberNovember 19, 2022 at 8:17 am
> ” Android Auto / Apple Carplay “
They’ve said that neither of those will be ready when the first production vehicles start to be delivered.
Having said that, I think there is a chance they could do an OTA update to add that functionality later.
- MemberNovember 19, 2022 at 10:32 am
It is important to understand that Aptera does not have the software budget of larger vehicle makers. The infotainment and companion app will definitely not be as feature rich as Tesla or other auto makers. Unless it has changed in the development process they are likely still using the Toradex iMX 8 which is a reasonably powerful and flexible SoM board. OTA updates will be added over time but Android Auto / Carplay will be far down the list of priorities for the company.
- MemberNovember 19, 2022 at 11:33 am
As long as there is an AUX port so I can connect my XM radio, I’ll be happy. I don’t listen to AM or FM anymore so that isn’t important, but a CD player would be nice to have. I even just found my Bluetooth adapter for cassette tape players so if for some reason they go old school and include a cassette player, I can use the adapter!
- MemberNovember 19, 2022 at 12:52 pm
I wouldn’t even mind if it has nothing at the beginning as long as i can mirror my phone and patch audio in somehow, preferably with a cable. That’s all i need.
- MemberNovember 19, 2022 at 9:59 pm
@Alexander Amar They’ve said that Aptera will have a “robust” Bluetooth set-up so that you can play media from your phone.
- MemberNovember 20, 2022 at 8:06 am
@kerbe2705 Unfortunately that won’t help me since my XM radio doesn’t have Bluetooth capability; only an audio out jack. Thus an AUX port is mandatory.
- MemberNovember 20, 2022 at 9:02 am
My Sirius/XM Stiletto doesn’t have one either, but where there’s a will, there’s a way.
- MemberNovember 20, 2022 at 5:09 pm
I’ll have to make a note of that. Of course since it now looks like it’ll be another two years before I’ll come up for a vehicle (if ever), no sense in ordering now.
- MemberNovember 20, 2022 at 9:45 pm
@Dennis Swaney I guess the option would be to run the Sirius XM app on your phone and Bluetooth it to Aptera’s audio system. Of course that would mean paying for your Sirius subscription AND running-up your data GBs…
- MemberNovember 21, 2022 at 7:38 am
Yep, the reason I got XM Radio back in ’02 was due to a cross country round trip I made, trying to find good stations every 50 miles was a pain. And even though I had about 24 CDs and several cassettes, I went through all of them at least three times. Satellite radio was the way to go. There are still a LOT of places (especially out West) with poor or no cell service. If Starlink can add phone service at a reasonable rate, that might be a way to go.
- MemberNovember 21, 2022 at 7:45 am
Dennis, did you get the lifetime subscription when they had it? One of the better choices I made in 2005.
- MemberNovember 21, 2022 at 7:50 am
Nope. That must have been with Sirius, as I don’t remember anything like it at XM; also it was pre-merger in 2011.
- MemberNovember 21, 2022 at 6:55 pm
I’d say having a simple interface would be much safer. The UK just released a report discussing the dangers of proprietary interfaces using large screens. “Perhaps most significantly, reaction times increased by up to an alarming 57% when interacting with these devices. By comparison, driving while over the alcohol limit only increases reaction times by 12%, notes the VNC Automotive report. Perhaps most significantly, reaction times increased by up to an alarming 57% when interacting with these devices. By comparison, driving while over the alcohol limit only increases reaction times by 12%, notes the VNC Automotive report.”
The simplicity of CarPlay and actual buttons make cars safer.
- MemberNovember 19, 2022 at 4:50 pm
They have said before that there will be no proprietary entertainment service provider provisions. But Blue Tooth for sure. With that, anything your phone can do can be piped in the car infotainment system.
Be nice to have a few USB ports for charging or plugging in a thumb drive for playing music or podcasts. Aux port would be nice. Even if it doesn’t have an FM radio, that would be okay. I have that functionality on my phone too.
Come to think of it, I have an all-band radio receiver USB dongle too. Wonder if I’d be able to run my SDR software on the car? Hmmm…
- MemberNovember 21, 2022 at 10:13 am
All I really need is a USB port as my music is on a stick. Using Spotify/internet source will use data from the phone and not everyone has unlimited data. Hard to sign up for add ons when there are no details about them.
- MemberNovember 23, 2022 at 8:05 am
Interesting article in AutoWeek on EVs & AM radio: