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MemberJune 28, 2022 at 9:05 am
Aptera Owners club made a good video on the early days and resurrection of Aptera in 2019. It really seems like his role may have scaled back given his other companies. Alternatively they may wanted to control expectations more since some of his statements in calls were perhaps too speculative on what could be done than what will be in the delivered product.
MemberJune 25, 2022 at 12:11 pm
12 amps is max sustained on a circuit so 1440w. That’s about 14 miles per hour. +- depending on battery weight, speed and charging efficiency.
MemberJune 21, 2022 at 9:27 am
AWD and offroad reduce efficiency and work against the main mission of the vehicle. Not to say they are bad (I reserved them both) but you will never get the rated ranges with these options so they are hardly universally better.
The camping kit and pet kit are not really part of the vehicle at all and similarly are very specialized. I have concerns about the viability of the camping kit in harsh weather and practicality due to the need to clear the back of the car without loading everything into tents to actually sleep in it.
Safetypilot is hardly an option from my perspective because many of its features have been very standard for years in other vehicles. This is a cost of ensuring the vehicle is safe and has modern expected functionality.
While profit from these addons might theoretically be higher at scale it costs a lot to offer a product like a tent or low weight speakers in relatively small numbers.
MemberJune 20, 2022 at 8:22 pm
Anything on this forum would be pure speculation. Inflation from 2010 to 2020 was an average of 1.9%; they could not anticipate current inflation. Assuming their margins were originally fairly tight and we end up woth 10+% total inflation over what they predicted this would likely need to be recovered in a price increase. Hopefully if they can eventually shift to lfp for many scales this could save a fair amount per battery pack and offset this bit it will take time/redevelopment.
MemberJune 20, 2022 at 1:15 pm
I would be very surprised if this mechanism could scale and be cost effective while having good handling characterizes.
The best way to retract would be hydraulic or air suspension would could cause the vehicle to stand higher as needed to save a few inches per side. Any such option would add substantial cost.
MemberJune 18, 2022 at 10:16 pm
Don’t care. Preordered both. I’ll get Aptera first (likely late 2024 to mid 2025) and I’ll get a cyber truck by 2026-7 (as base as possible). One goes distance/trips and the other is local utility.
MemberJune 29, 2022 at 12:32 am
Wow really hope we dont get Chademo. They are rare and being phased out. This would be a real issue for long term usability for road trips.
MemberJune 29, 2022 at 12:24 am
Aptera seems to be making little or no extra profit by selling larger packs. Batteries are an expensive comodity and even assuming linear scaling (unrealistic) the 1000 mile will need 15 modules with 416 cells (400 mile used 6); I suspect they will need as many as 18 to offset losses in efficiency with weight. Even at wholesale this is likely $20,000-$25,000 just in batteries. More packs to offset lost range due to weight brings this even higher.
All costs are going up with inflation and I’m concerned they will struggle to make a profit. Aptera is likely the best $ per khw as they are currently priced (in addition to the obvious $ per mile)
MemberJune 27, 2022 at 12:16 pm
The center mirror is a camera so yes it will definitely have a backup camera.
TBD if a 360 camera system (virtual overhead view for parking) will be included but many vehicles have this and given the width of the Aptera it would be extremely useful. If it isn’t factory I will be adding it to my vehicle since generic ones are on amazon.
MemberJune 25, 2022 at 1:22 pm
I think for most people it has far more to do with the quality of the tesla supercharger network when compared to the ccs charge networks. Reliability, number and location quality for CCS chargers in parts of the US suck. Hopefully an injection of money from the feds will address the number of chargers but unless they substantially improve maintenance the charge networks are still poor.
MemberJune 25, 2022 at 12:24 pm
Ccs1 in the US is not the same as cc2 (but is roughly the same size). Fyi the US made Ccs1 the standard in their documents on June 9th: https://www.natlawreview.com/article/us-department-transportation-proposed-rulemaking-aims-to-set-minimum-standards-ev?amp
I’m personally fine with either as long as dcfc is an option. Here in bc the number of stalls is roughly equal for tesla/ccs chargers and both are everywhere.
MemberJune 25, 2022 at 12:16 pm
While Harry may find it an inconvienance its best to have security nuts. If you need a wheel shop to work on the car they will probably insist you remove the wheel pants anyway. Changing 1 nut power tire will take a few min.
MemberJune 24, 2022 at 9:59 pm
A better method is to use battery degrading under advanced to stimulate other models. This avoid impact on charge times. Obviously specs are unclear and no certainty about ccs vs tesla plug
MemberJune 23, 2022 at 2:55 pm
That would be huge to hit the range at that speed.
I think most people assume the numbers are for an EPA standard test. Looking at my physics calculations and the known details of the battery I needed to assume some extreme constants to achieve 400 miles.
– 200 lb lighter for the base weight than my general assumption and those by motormatchup
– 150 lb driver
– 0.007 Cdr (rolling resistance coefficient) – typical car is 0.01 and originally I used 0.0085
– 0.13 Cd (air drag) – due to the mirrors (thanks NHTSA) I have assumed 0.15 generally
MemberJune 22, 2022 at 9:55 pm
Yikes. That’s a nasty commute. What like 150+ miles per day? That justifyies an ev in fuel savings alone.
Working from home has been amazing for my sanity (and my dogs); tons of wasted time saved.
MemberJune 22, 2022 at 8:52 pm
I agree about the cloth but hoefully it can be easily covered. Touch surfaces should never be white.
MemberJune 22, 2022 at 8:21 pm
Honestly if they need to simplify I I’m good with no solar 🤣; It’s an afterthought for me. Bc has power at $0.12 cad (about $0.09 usd) and I park in the garage (concerned regarding security and wrap). Doublt many would agree but the point is everyone has unique priorities.
MemberJune 22, 2022 at 8:14 pm
Saving the day!
MemberJune 20, 2022 at 9:23 pm
Unfortunately too many options adds a lot to the cost due to increased logistics and manufacturing complexity.
MemberJune 20, 2022 at 6:34 pm
Id like to see if I can make a system to lift the wheel pants 3-5 inches using solonoids. This would essentially be push button offroad and better for parking. Hyperglycemia once it’s released and more details are available I’ll see if it’s viable.
MemberJune 20, 2022 at 1:40 pm
For anyone that wants a model with an interior here is my latest version of the gamma. With FDM it should be viable with a well setup printer and a .25mm nozzle but I use SLA. I am still working on the latest interior updates to the dash, console and door from the webinar. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5409483
MemberJune 19, 2022 at 2:19 pm
A modification I would love to look at would be a solenoid system to raise or lower the wheel covers. This would be great so I could go into offroad mode as I drive off the main road. This would also allow making the vehicle far more visible in parking lots. Having the ability to actually integrate this tightly with the infotainment would be awesome but I suspect it wont be that open on the software side.
Aptera has already shown more openness than essentially any other auto maker and currently the obvious priority is to get units shipping now. I expect the community around customization and right to repair will form nicely
MemberJune 19, 2022 at 1:57 pm
The center console seems very modular in design already. With the measurements it would be very easy to design a cup holder insert that could be printed. I hope they are that open with the design because it would be super useful for minor repairs and customization.
MemberJune 19, 2022 at 10:19 am
No. The cybertruck will rarely leave the province. It will be for anything I need to haul around things / tow or do more seriously offroad. Aptera will be for most commutes or longer trips. Both can be used to run around town as needed for day to day stuff for me and my wife.
MemberJune 17, 2022 at 5:15 pm
Fingers crossed for lfp eventually so the “only have 80% usable battery” justification can go away. When they started work lfp wasn’t what it is now; it is advancing by leaps and bound. 180 wh/kg is very readily available now, 210 is the bleeding edge and 230 will be in production this year; any of these would be plenty for the 400 mile to be viable. Changing technologies will take time and likely millions in rework but could also be thousands saved per vehicle. As an investor this would really help profitability given the aggressiveness of the pricing.